I'm against trading for giannis personally, i think he's a terrible fit but of course he makes the team better. He's WAY WAY WAY better than sengun is currently or will ever be, so i understand it. I don't think that team is a contender though to win a title.
OK, what is the Rockets' biggest weakness? Outside shooting. How does Giannis address that? Last time I looked Nico Harrison is NOT the Bucks' GM so I expect Milwaukee is going to demand a king's ransom for Giannis. They are facing years in rebuilding hell so I expect their asking price for Giannis to be steep. Now, the Rockets may well meet their asking price but this team will be gutted in the process. I would rather we keep our core and develop them a bit more and add a little more size around Sengun and find better shooting. If we keep Green, then make him the 6th man off the bench.
The Rockets biggest weakness - as was made overwhelmingly clear - wasn't outside shooting accuracy, it was the ability to create shots of any kind against a good defense. The Rockets actually outshot the Warriors from distance - .374 to .358. They just took 198 to the Warriors 302.
Dame was fine in 2023 in Portland. It was arguably his best year ever. His stats plummeted immediately in Milwaukee to Jamal Murray level. That is Giannis' fault. He refused to play off ball as a screener and took Lillard out of his natural game. Lillard was a much better, much more skilled offensive player than Giannis and he had to take a backseat.
If Giannis got the PNR shots Alpi got in the GS series …does he finish with similar or better % - Do we win series?
They definitely win. And then get smashed by any one of OKC, BOS, or CLE when they meet them. Sengun is not even close to his full potential and nearly close to a decade younger. You would be blowing up a top 3 NBA core for 3 years of on the clock win-now moves that will destroy everything. Possibly get Ime fired when it doesn't work, possibly get Eason and Thompson traded for better fit, and still be worse than OKC indefinitely. We've seen this time and time again. Trading for a 30+ year old superstar with an incomprehensible ego as these guys always have, practically never works when you sacrifice the future. SO many trade across the league. It won't be functional. The fit isn't good. And then on top of that it won't last. It's a form of blowing the roster up to do that.
If you magically did a 1 for 1 swap of the 2? It would be absolute destruction of the Warriors - like 4 game sweep level of destruction. Maybe even 3 game sweep if that's allowed
Your saying Westbrook at 30 was a better player than Giannis at 30? Again, the depreciation of athleticism and length from Giannis is going away anytime soon. Not to mention his mid range game is pretty good right now and getting better. Again, 30 12 and 6 every night in 32 minutes of action
Can you name the 30 yr old superstar like Giannis who got traded. I'm talking about guy on top of his game and still getting better? I'll wait
I don't mind trading Sengun but not for Giannis. He's never been a particularly skilled guy and is aging - just doesn't make sense to be the team that picks up the back half of his playing career when his career hinged on his elite athleticism- it would be a brief window AND it would require you surround Giannis with shooters and those are NOT the types of players we have here so getting Giannis means you are turning over like half the team for shooters. Just seems like a bad fit on many level. ....and yes, we are probably going to have to trade Sengun to get a #1. I just don't think it's possible to upgrade anywhere without him unless someone really loves Jalen and I don't think that's likely.
Would you trade Sengun for Bam and Herro? Would you add a pick to get it done? Bam is only 27, fits our fast and furious lineup (if you jettison FVV) and can hit 3 pointers. Herro would be great off the bench as instant offense or start him and let Jalen come off the bench. Under this scenario, we would still have a ton of assets to continue to re-structure our team.
That would make the team worse. Alp is a better player already than Bam with a much higher upside. Seems like some of yall just want to get rid of Alp, just because. Makes no sense trading your best player. Giannis at least makes sense. Bam and Herro? Lmao
And what exactly makes you so sure that our 22 year old center who ranks 10th in NBA mvp ladder never gonna be at the same level as 30 year old no 3 of same ranking?
The odds of it are just so incredibly low for anyone to reach that level. What would you say the chances are of sengun having a season as good as giannis just had? 1%? 3%?
I'm kind of shocked by the poll results here. This is insanity guys. Yes... Sengun is fantastic... but Giannis when healthy is easily a top 3 player in the league. He's also not that old, and has a game, and the size to play at least another 5 years at a high level. Just look at the data people. This isn't even close.
Its really amazing to me. Giannis is a yr younger than when Dream won his 1st title and people says he's aging. Ridiculous
Fans will always way overvalue (or undervalue) their guys because that’s who they watch and support, it’s human nature. Hard to separate that and be objective.
....with a very specific type of roster that is exactly opposite of how we are constructed presently. He doesn't have range - he scores in the paint so he needs to be surrounded with shooters. Without extensive changes up and down the roster to bring more shooting in - on this team, he would be 31 later this year and shooting 25 11 and 4 on lower shooting percentages because teams would just pack the paint and force our shooters to make shots(that we would miss). I mean that's what GS did to Sengun this series. You mind as well just keep Sengun(similar FT percentages even!) at that point rather than paying Giannis an extra $20mil and use the money elsewhere. ...and don't kid yourself - Giannis puts up big numbers but he lacks a skill game. He's the answer to "if young Shaq were a wing player". His game relies on him using quickness, strength, length, and athleticism to make plays others can't defend. It's not like he developed much of a jump shot or has elite handles or anything. He can basically pick the ball up from the 3pt line and Euro step his way to the hoop without dribbling with his length. Athletic guys who don't develop skill games fall off quickly - its just facts. Who wants to be the team holding the bill for $55-$60mil when that happens? Not me.
