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Would you trade Ming for Shaq???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mrbasketball, Aug 28, 2002.

  1. Easy

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    Nothing personal. Just don't like Shaq. Period.:p

    Having Pippen on the team almost got me to quit rooting for the Rockets. Thank goodness, Pippen quit before I did. I don't want another one of those guys I can't possibly root for.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    If Shaq were not so fat and his arthritic toe condition was completely healed then yes, but because of all the above, I would have to say ...

    NO

    DD
     
  3. CoPilot

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    In 2 years time you might and thats a BIG might have 1 ring and no Shaq and LA would be the team for the next 10years with 3 of the BEST players in the NBA...thanks to your total stupitdy...I think you need to study the game just a tad more before you stick your big fat foot in your mouth:cool:
     
  4. Easy

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    OK, apart from my personal bias, let me consider the question from purely basketball sense. That is really not an easy decision.

    The problem is, of course, how long Shaq is going to last. Trading for Shaq wouldn't get us a ring instantly, as some of you seem to suggest. It would take at least one year to jel. (How long did it take Shaq to jel with another talented young player in LA?) By the time Shaq and the team, not to mention the coaching staff, feel comfortable enough with each other to win it all, Shaq might be thinking about retiring already. The fact is, we don't know how many year does Shaq have left in his tank.

    The other side of the equation is Yao's potential and the time required to develop into his full potential. Will Yao be one of the most dominating centers in 2 or 3 years? Will it take longer?

    In my estimation, the uncertainty of Shaq's longevity is a least as great (I believe it is greater) as Yao's developing into one of the most dominating centers in 2 years.

    If we do trade Yao for Shaq, the best senario will be Shaq plays at least 4 more years of dominating ball and Yao develops slowly or not at all. That will land us about 3 championship years.

    The worst senario will be Shaq plays less than 4 years and Yao becomes great in 2 years. By the time the team has good chemistry with Shaq, Yao has already been almost as effective a center as Shaq, and the road to NBA Finals still goes through LA. Urgh!
     
  5. RocketForever

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    I don't know if we would trade Ming for Shaq or if LA would trade Shaq for Ming.

    But on another bulletin board I found some Knicks fans saying things like they should trade Kurt Thomas, 2003 1st round pick and 2005 1st round pick for Ming and they actually thought we would bite...funny stuff
     
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    I agree with those that say Shaq is kind of like instant gratification.

    I would rather win it our way. I don't want to buy the championship like the NY Yankees. We've drafted, and traded a potential competitive team. Let's stick with these guys, make minor adjustments as needed and see what we can do. Winning from an underdog position would be that much sweeter.

    I do agree that getting Shaq on the team would mean championships, but sometimes I like the old addage 'It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.'
     
  8. rockbox

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    You better think before you call someone stupid, or I might stick my big fat foot in your *ss.
     
  9. mav3434

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    yes. Shaq is a proven, if older commodity. If he were proven and just good, I might be willing to take a chance on Ming and potential greatness, but Shaq already is great, love him or hate him.

    What about this: would you trade Ming for Olajuwon, age 30 ?
     
  10. Doctor Robert

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    I can't believe that only one person (Yetti) even mentions the fact that it is nice to BUILD the team rather than BUY the team. What satisfaction is there to just buying a team like Dallas and Portland? I would much rather watch the Rockets lose than have a team like those.

    Shame on all of you! Especially NYKRule! We're supposed to be the sentimental fans, not the rabid win or die fans!
     
  11. xlr817

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    .....Banned and laughed at:) Antwayz, there's a chance that Shaq's arthritic toe will announce his retirement soon;) !
     
  12. LeGrouper

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    I would stick with Ming for business purposes. Ming will sell so much Rockets memoribilia in China it is going to be ridiculous. Also he is going to fill up the seats here and like it has already been said he will be more fun to watch than Shaq. And I also agree that Shaq, while only 30, is on the down side of his career. The other thing that worries me is that Phil Jackson might actually make that trade and that would mean that it would be a good one for LA.

    And I can't stand that huge b*stard. My favorite NBA moment was when Charles boinked him with the ball. After Mad Max making that near half courter to tie it up with the Knicks.
     
  13. mav3434

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    Build buy whatever. A win is a win and a ring is a ring. It's nice to say you want to build when you are losing, but it's much nicer to not lose. I guess its better than buying a team that sucks like Portland has, but ask the Baltimore Ravens or Florida Marlins if they'd trade their championship rings for a couple more playoff berths.
     
  14. almostReady

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    To those who want Shaq: If you are going to do it with a beautiful woman, would you like the process go on for a while, or you rather only want the last few second eja********?
    To those who want Shaq: Would you like the woman being your true lover or just someone paid by you to do it in a hurry?
    To those who want Shaq: It's possible that Shaq be well spent during the regular season, and in the playoffs, his toe won't work and his relationship with Francis and Rudy goes sour, and Kobe/Yao combo beat the **** out of your Shaq's Rockets.




    :D :eek: :mad: :D
     
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  15. joe hoang

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    What kind of question is this? Shaq cannot possibly be traded for any one person in this league! Totally ridiculous.
     
  16. HayesStreet

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    Shaq would be acquired. Francis was acquired. Shaq would be acquired. Griffin was acquired. The principle is the same.

    Whether you draft or acquire a player, if that player leads to championships, you have made the right move. Trying to predict the future impact of an unknown player is much harder than trying to predict the impact of the game's most dominant player. And the list that crash5179 put out only proves the point. You are more than likely NEVER going to get a ring only using players you drafted (not that it would be the case with the Rockets since they've ACQUIRED their best player already).
     
  17. RocketForever

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    LA would definitely like the idea to team up Kobe with Ming for the next 12 years. Great idea. ;)
     
  18. BanginScrew

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    You would be trading someone who Might be dominant for someone that Is Dominant. I take Shaq over Yao any day of the week. Remember you're swaping these two players not trying to come up with a trade that fits under the cap. The only player the Rockets lose is Yao.
     
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    The point is dat we don't know if shaq can play D on yao( one on one) yet...... shaq have been in the nba league for 10yrs and he has 3 rings... which mean he became a dominator after 7 yrs in the league...7 yrs is a very long time....

    I didnt seen him win any ring when he was with the Orlando' magic.. what does it tells you?

    He needs better coach and teammate.. which the Laker has...
    If Shaq with the Rox, Francis wont be a team leader... shaq will take over as a team leader for Rox... I dont think any of the Rox will agree if shaq be the team leader over Francis....

    I only think the only dominators in the NBA were wilt chamberlain and MJ... Not shaq :D He aint one... If he is one then he should be capable to score 50+ points per game...Just my opinion
     
  20. RC Cola

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    I know this is your opinion, and I respect that, but you have some problems in your post, IMO.

    I don't know if Shaq could guard Yao, but I don't know if Yao could guard Shaq. (probably not.) And you are not a dominator, imo, once you get a ring. Shaq did well against many great centers at a young age, but didn't really have anyone else. (maybe Penny, that's probably about it.)

    As long as they win, it wouldn't matter. Take the Kobe-Shaq relationship. Kobe would be the leader on any team, and wanted to lead LA, but so did Shaq. The two started winning and both "shared" it. (though Shaq probably gets the bigger half.)

    I think only Wilt may have gotten 50+ points a game, and that was a ong time ago for maybe only one season, for maybe just 51ppg. So that's a big goal, imo.Shaq does dominate. No one can stop him. If Yao could, great. But I don't think he can. (I hope, though.)

    Just my opinion also. (it hurts, too, because I don't like Shaq, but I backed him up. WHY?!)
     

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