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would you trade James Harden for Jimmy Butler?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Madclownpacasum, Jan 5, 2016.

  1. OTMax

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    Hah of course!! Jimmy is a real basketball player with passion for the game and the right attitude and Harden...is not.
     
  2. yahboyryan

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    Only player I'll trade for harden is PG13
     
  3. Yung-T

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    This statement only works when you apply extremely basic stats (ppg, apg, etc) and leave out the stats that show Harden's effect on our defense. The net rating of a Harden 30pt game is much lower than a Butler 30pt game when considering how Harden destroys our defense and allows so many points and high opponent shooting percentages, while also messing up our rotations and offensive flow and chemistry in certain moments.
     
  4. tycoonchip

    tycoonchip Tilman has Aids!
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    Yes! Wouldn't blink. Reminds me of the time we lost Mcgrady and had to use Artest and Battier at the starting 2 and 3. We became a very strong defensive team and the ball never got sticky. James Harden is good but unless he learns the team game he is nothing more than a chucker. Butler can play off the ball. He can defend. He can allow a guy like Dwight to do what he needs to do while still being extremely effective. He moves without the ball. That is something Harden has yet to learn. He is 26 folks. These are things you can learn but when does it become too late? Dwight is on his decline. There is no question to that. However he can very easily still be extremely effective and a pivitol part to a championship but that window is closing very soon. If the opportunity arises for the trade then you do it without thinking twice.
     
  5. ilovehtownbb

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    Jimmy is balling outta control right now. He's the go to guy in Chicago. And he plays excellent D. Don't know if you guys watched game he played against Indiana, he out played PG13, he plays hard very game and he is a Texas kid from tombal.
     
  6. roslolian

    roslolian Rockets Only Fan

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    LOL the bigger question is will Chicago trade Harden for Butler with the way Butler is playing? Harden has more potential but Butler is more consistent, has more heart and plays 2 way ball. Harden can be unstoppable at times but he really seems weak mentally to me, reminds me so much of tmac to be honest, let's not forget Tmac at age 26 was considered one of the best players as well.
     
  7. PrawnJ

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    No. Harden is actually a complete player when he focuses. I have faith in him
     
  8. Liberon

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    TMac got injured and started quitting. But at his peak he was superior to Harden. Harden could not shoot over prime TMac without getting blocked 7 out of 10 times if the year was 2003.
     
  9. KillScarz

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    You get the idea.
    Build up his trade values with lies.

    Harden is the best SG this season! Has all-star starter position on lockdown.
     
  10. dianelo

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    The problem is he only focuses 1 out of 3 games. Good to translate into 28 wins though.
     
  11. dragician

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    He's hungry. James is not hungry anymore, he just loves to cook.
     
  12. AvgJoe

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    What about Dwight for Butler?
     
  13. YOLO

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    Chicago doesn't need any more bigs. they have too many as it is. They wouldn't even do that trade anyway
     
  14. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    Good lord no.

    Harden is having a down season, and Butler is having a great year, yet Harden is still the better player this year.
     
  15. seeingred

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    really ? Which is closer - Butler's Offense to Harden's... or Harden's Defense to Butler's ?
     
  16. Madclownpacasum

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    I know harden is a better player when he's focused. But the question is when?
     
  17. kjayp

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    This thread is great for identifying the delusional homers... lol
     
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  18. rocketseagles07

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    When you combine the defense and the turnovers no he's not
     
  19. jordnnnn

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    But to me a down year doesn't change the fact that a guy is a top
    5 player.
     
  20. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

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    It's not about a 'down year' - its making the conscience decision that basketball is secondary to partying...
     

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