Given the direction Morey is moving in Turiaf is the guy that makes the most sense for us to pursue on GS. He fits this current squad to a 'T' and doesn't disrupt the chemistry or balance of Morey's 'plan'. We have absolutely zero shotblockers and currently our best center is 6'6". Turiaf is good enough to start on this 09-10 project Rockets team until Yao comes back and he instantly becomes the quality backup center that we lost once Deke retired. $4M per year is the going rate for a player of that caliber. If no better options are available, sign me up.
I Ain't dreaming, but that is what i would do. They can keep Randolf and i would just tank this season draft a top 5 pick and try to sign Chris Bosh when Yao Ming comes back then it only took 1 year to rebuild.
No, AB deserves a shot to come into the season with the mindset that he is the guy... He can relax and go out and play from day 1... That makes a huge difference. Monta is up and down and seems to be a headcase IMO.
Oh before that after this coming season trade Landry and Turiaf for an expiring contract for cap room.
I have to differ with your premis of turiaf. Rony is 6'10 with long arms and a high energy shot blocker type. He can knock down the 15 fter also. When you look at the big pcture overrall, he makes even more sense because he can also play the 4 spot. So yao comes back and turiaf backs up yao and scola and the team woould always have a shotblocker on the floor. Rony also is a good guy with a good attitude. He has 3yrs at 4m per which is fair for a 4/5 kinda guy. He's better than chris anderson and he's younger. I don't see the problem unless you've only seen him play a couple of times.
Yet another candidate to fill the slot I've been clamoring for in the other thread (2009-10 Rox...eraserless). What's your insight as to why the org has not addressed this, leeb?
I know people will say I'm b****ing and whinning, but I have saying this for awhile. To be honest, I don't know why it hasn't been addressed. Its obvious that adelman doesn't or didn't want to play deke unless yao was hurt. I thought last summer the rockets shouldve signed Turiaf or drafted Jordan or do both. I like turiaf because he ca do some of the things landry can do plus hess bigger and a shotblocker. That wouldve given coach the flexibility to play him 16mins with scola and 16mins with yao. Normally the same guys scola struggles with landry do also and that's when we will see chuck. With Turiaf, they could let landry go and had a guy that can fill 2 spots. If they didn't do that, I saw no reason why in the 2nd rd they didn't draft Deandre Jordan. He is a tall athletic 20 yr old that has natural ability. He can run,jump, 7fter and can also reb and blk some shots. He couldve been a developmental guy and maybe if Yao keeps breaking down the replacement. Instead we took a 25 yr old project. I don't understand and comingt into this year they go and get anderson a 30 yr old import vs getting a guy like frye for the same money that is younger and actually played in this league.
Last year, I would have happily done a Mcgrady+filler for Ellis and Randolph. In the time since, Randolph became known as a potential beast (despite Don Nelson's best attempts to bury him on the bench), and Ellis went out of his way to show what an immature twit he can be. Now, Randolph's value is too high, and an undersized chucker w/ a bad attitude is not on the shopping list. Besides, I only need to look at Golden State to feel slightly better about our chances this year...
6-10/With a 7-2 wingspan, 250 lbs is not undersized. You are wrong. He can easily play center in the NBA today. He is also a great passer in the high post, boasting a strong 2-1 a/to ratio from the CENTER spot. Perfect for an Adelman offense. All 15 players should have the attitude that Chuck and Ronny have. It can NEVER hurt to have too many solid, professional, hardworking, passionate players on our team.
How is he a chucker when he shoots a very high fg% for a guard? Why is his attitude bad because he spoke up and said what everyone was thinking?
I think i would, hes extremely explosive and can get really hot at times. He would just need to buy in to the Defense cuz he damn sure hasnt played any thus far.
Taken from Draft express: Predraft MeasurementsHeight w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert Bench Press Lane Agility 3/4 Court Sprint Class Rank 6' 8" 6' 9.25" 238 7' 1.5" 8' 10.5" NA 30.5 33.0 15 11.50 3.23 21 Those are his predraft measurements. Compare that with Landry Height w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert Bench Press Lane Agility 3/4 Court Sprint Class Rank 6' 7.75" 6' 8.5" 248 6' 11" 8' 6.5" 7.5 31.5 36.5 21 11.35 3.29 5 Yep, that's right, Carl Landry is only .25 cm shorter than Turiaf. If most people here consider Landry to be slightly undersized at pf, then how is Turiaf just right for C when he is only .25 cm taller? He has nice wingspan, but so does Dorsey. Dorsey is a big question mark, but at least he isn't making more than Scola or Landry a year. I would just like to point out that I'm not saying Turiaf sucks. He's a quality defender with a semblance of an offensive game. However he's making twice what Chuck Hayes, a proven post defender in the league, makes. I'd rather rely on Hayes and Dorsey's potential then have yet another defensive specialist onboard for slightly more than 4 mill a year.
Per Hollinger (for what it's worth): 2008-09 USG: 23.8%; averaged 17 shots per game for 50% TS% with 3.5 apg and 4 FTpg thrown in. Oh, and his assist ratio is 14.7%. He's handling the ball 24% of the time, and turns 14.7% of those possesions into assists? Not exactly what you want from your starting PG. [By comparison, Aaron Brooks averaged 11 shots per game last season, 3 assists at a 19.5% ratio, with 52% TS and a 21% USG. Still not quite traditional PG stats, but they speak to being much more in control and able to run an offense.] Now that obviously doesn't tell the whole story, but watching him play he looks for his own shot 1st. His game reminds me of a young Iverson with more of a jump shot but less driving and drawing fouls. He's a 6'3" shooting guard, and a phenomenal talent still, but passing ability and decision making are not there, and may never be. Ellis will tell you himself that he's not really a PG, and that's the problem also. While some may agree that he can't team with Curry (and that's open to debate), the problem was how he said it. He came off as being selfish, petulant and inflexible. Maybe this doesn't necessarily indicate a bad attitude, but again, not what you want from your starting PG. Also, put that in the context of a guy that signed a huge contract then missed half a season becasue he injured himself violating that contract. After lying about the injury, he made a stink about the way the team handled his punishment. Similar to the S.Jackson situation, here's a guy that will not tow the company line, even though the company has been pretty generous and reasonable considering his history. Now, it can also be argued that nothing GS does is reasonable, but I'm sure most employers do things to frustrate the workers at times. For $11mi I could probably figure out how to shut up and produce. I'm just sayin'...
Piggy, try watching the games. The only reason his ts isn't higher is because he doesn't shoots 3s. He's a midrange attacking type guard. He's a guard,not a pg or sg, but with tracy on the team, he would basically be the sg. He's better than brooks and its not close and I am a huge brooks fan.In adelmans offense, the offense is the pg and the pg is more the scorer. Go look at bibby and porter as examples. Ellis makes a flat 11m for the next 5 yrs or so in which he will be 29. He's a younger player than brooks and a better talent and has better production. Now u can find any stats u want, but ellis is a upgrade bigtime.
