Regardless of whether Ceballos played more 2 than 3, he is still a 3. Shandon played some 3 last year, does that make him a 3?? No. He's a 2. ------------------
haven's point still stands; Shandon Anderson has improved himself every year and last season increased his scoring every month. He is better than Allan Houston in every category except for Ppg and is a better defender. It's highly debatable who the better player is, and if we were to compare them on a $ for $ basis then Anderson would clearly prove to be better value. Someone said that Houston is one of the top 5 SG's in the league - I highly rate the guy too - but if Anderson is better than him in almost every statistical category and LOVES playing in Houston and is taking considerably less to play here than he could've made elsewhere, don't you think we should be showing the guy some appreciation?? Who's to say he won't average 15ppg this year as well as getting 2 spg and 3-4 assists and boards - I don't think it's a big call to suggest he might get that - would that make him one of the best SG's in the league? Certainly put him up there.... ------------------
Hey Lil Francis! OK, Let's play this silly game with Allen Houston vs the Eastern 2's: Hawks: Jimmy Jackson Y Celtics: Paul Pierce N Hornets Eddie Robinson Y Bulls Ron Mercer M Cavs Wesley Person Y Pistons Jerry Stackhouse M Pacers Reggie Miller N Heat Eddie Jones N Bucks Ray Allen M Nets Kerry Kittles Y Magic McGrady M Sixers Allen Iverson N Raptors Vince Carter N Wizards Mitch Richmond Y 5 out 14 doesn't sound so dominate to me. Do not know why you are so unappreciative of what Shandon Anderson brings to the Rocks. Somebody has to do the blue-collar stuff and Shandon's value goes far beyond a stats sheet. Could the Faker$ win a championship with Anderson starting - you bet (they did it with AC). If Steve Smith were out for the season, could the Blazers win with Shandon starting - absolutely. Comparing Houston and Anderson is an apples and oranges situation. They each bring something different to the table. The good news for Rockets fans is Shandon has not nearly reached his peak. ------------------ GATER
Anderson is probably almost as good as Houston yes, he's a much better deal... but I still think the most important part of this argument is trust and honor. Other organizations can act classless (trading Ewing) all they want, but I'd rather the Rockets remain classy. In the long run, I think it pays off anyway. ------------------ David Falk is a MoFo. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
The Rocket organization is First Class all the way. Why else would so many players want to play here? ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
lilfrancis no way u didnt do those quite right shandon would start over anderson, hughes, barry, and ceballos . possibly dickerson(hes starting over cuttino isnt he?
Just go after anyone, doesn't matter who, just so there are some more non Mo threads. Maybe we could get Jeff to start a SUFM SAVE US FROM MO ------------------ Discombobulation Imminent
No such clause in his contract... We have already seen the stats and they do not lie. Who is the better defender? Who has more assists & rebounds? I would stack Anderson against anybody except maybe Kobe. $ for $ Shandon is the most bang for your buck. Besides we need size not another ball-hogging guard who doesn't play defense. ------------------ Houston Rockets Forever!! In Rudy We Trust
Lil Francis: You really don't pay attention to anything but highlight reels, do you? Anderson played much better than Hughes last year. Hughes had a green-light to shoot... and did, alot. That doesn't make him a great player. Sure, the kid has potential... but there was no doubt who the more valuable player was last year. Anderson. You keep making these assertions without backing them up. Back them up, or admit you're wrong. You have yet to explain why you want to ruin Houston's status as a classy organization for one trade of marginal value. Remember when Cuttino Mobley said he resigned with the Rockets because they treated him like family, not a business... well, if you ran the Rockets... Mobley would be gone. Think about it. ------------------ David Falk is a MoFo. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
Player FGA//FG%//3%//FT%/PPG/RPG/APG/SPG/BPG ANDERSON 9.5//47.3//35.1//76.7/12.3/4.7/2.9/1.2/0.4 HUGHES 14.0//40.1//23.2//74.0/15.0/4.3/2.5/1.4/0.4 HOUSTON 15.5//48.3//43.6//83.8/19.7/3.3/2.7/0.8/0.2 RIDER 17.9//41.9/31.1/78.5/19.3/4.3/3.7/0.7/0.1 MUTOMBO 7.0//56.2//0.0//70.8/11.5/14.1/1.3/0.3/3.3 LaFRENTZ 10.9//44.6/68.6/32.8/12.4/7.9/1.2/0.5/2.2 Here are some stats.... ------------------
So lilfrancis, I'm comparing Houston/Hughes/Anderson - I'm sure you said that if we compared the stats it wouldn't even be close... well I'm a little surprised I must admit!! It does seem that they are all VERY close!! Allan Houston is clearly the best scorer out of the bunch of them, but it would seem he is kinda one dimensional in that he doesn't get much else. Larry Hughes and Shandon seem to have almost identical stat lines except for the fact that Hughes scores more points (2.7 more) by taking more shots (5.5 per game more). Does Hughes get more shots because he is more of a premiere player? (or should I say "playa" for this argument...) - or is it because there was nobody else on the Golden State roster who could throw the ball in the sea?? Remember that Hughes scoring average skyrocketed when he became a Warrior (although his shooting % was the same). Isiah Rider is in there to show that a good stat line does not necessarily make a good player, and nor does a 48 inch vertical... Mutumbo and LaFrentz are in there to push your argument off the cliff lilfrancis. You argue that Houston is better than Anderson - that MUST be because he scores more, because as we can see he doesn't do anything else better... that CLEARLY makes LaFrentz a better center than Mutombo because LaFrentz scores more! ------------------
One more thing lilfrancis; it's fine to argue a point - that's the whole point of a BBS But when it gets to the stage that people are substantiating their claims with evidence (I was not the first to do so and will not take credit for that - all the others did so before me!) then it is either time to show evidence of your own or make a rational argument, or be a man and admit that maybe your claim was a little wild ------------------
LilFrancis Shandon Anderson gives you consistent body-up Defense, is always moving without the ball, sets picks, rebounds the ball, scores mostly on fast breaks, or slashing to the basket and always puts his ego aside for the betterment of the team. Basically he wears the opponnent down by playing like a man who wants to win on the basketballcourt not on the stat-sheet. A team can only can have so many scorers/creaters in order to have successful chemistry and this Rudy understands. ------------------
Admit what? I still think Houston is better than Anderson. You stand by your view I stand by mine. Thats the whole reason for a message board. The reason I don't bring Houston stats on here is because I don't know how to bring up links.
There's no problem with you having your opinion lilfranics That's the point!! But don't complain that the stats aren't there, because they are right in front of your eyes!! Whether or not Houston is a better player than Anderson is certainly debatable, but the quality of player we recieve in return is a secondary factor when we';re talking about trading Anderson. ------------------
Forgive me if this was already posted in this thread... But I thought that we saw some SG ranking in which Malik Sealy and Jeff Hornacek (perhaps Allan Houston too) were the only SGs better than Shandon Anderson. Well, Malik has departed this earth. Jeff Hornacek has departed the NBA. So it stands to follow... ------------------ I've posted so much that what I say must be true. The latest on Maurice Taylor
