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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by omgTHEpotential, Jun 25, 2013.

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Would you give up D-Mo for a #3 pick in this years (2013) draft?

  1. Yes

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    77.9%
  2. No

    32 vote(s)
    22.1%
  1. BamBam

    BamBam Member

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    Bones,Kirk and myself agree......:eek:
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  2. JuanValdez

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    If it adversely impacts our max FA pursuit, no. Otherwise, yes.
     
  3. basketballholic

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    Trade him for #3. Then trade #3 for #9, #26, #52, #59 and a future second rounder. Trade #26 for #31, #33. Draft Cody Zeller and a whole slew of second rounders. Use those second rounders to trade for somebody's first round pick that they don't want after we sign Dwight. Or possibly sign a bunch of them and use them as trade bait for Dwight in a sign and trade. Or trade some of them for future second rounders.


    Problem is......I doubt Washington hands you that #3 pick for DMo. But if they do, I would think Morey would jump all over that.
     
  4. JayZ750

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    I agree... though then in theory you aren't really trading DMo for the #3 pick... you're trading him for something else. Just like the Rockets never really drafted Rudy Gay (even though technically they did).

    That said, even in this weak draft, it would take more than DMo to get the #3. Now, I'd even go as far as trading DMo + Lin + TRob for the #3, as that WOULD clearly free up a LOT of cap space. I like Lin, and it "probably" isn't equal value in this draft...

    BUT I REALLY REALLY like Trey Burke. I recognize he is a bit undersized, and didn't blow people away with his combine results, but if he was taller and "tested" better he'd be the consensus #1. Consider Damian Lillard. Damian has him on height, vertical and wingspan. But Trey has him on standing reach and 3/4 court sprint, and actually tested better in lane agility. Moreover, look what happened on the court. Trey didn't stay 4 years (like Lillard), but put up as impressive stats, in a much better conference, leading his team to the championship game.

    Consider his season:
    18.6 ppg, 50% 2 point shooting, 38% 3 point shooting, 80% FT shooting, 6.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 3.2 rpg... only 2 tpg.

    Obviously it has to translate, and still not sure another team in the top 6 would do that, but maybe DMo can work something out. Consider the cap hits.

    JLin - $8.4 million
    DMo - $1.4 million
    TRob - $3.5 million
    = $13.3 million

    If Morey could really swing that kind of deal, taking back no salary somehow, picking up a player like Burke, and shedding some other contracts here or there if necessary, you're now talking about a scenario where you could sign Dwight and Millsap both outright in the offseason, allowing you to keep Asik.

    Beverly/Burke
    Harden/[ ]
    Parsons/[ ]
    Millsap/TJones
    Howard/Asik

    ^ that's legit. that's a championship contender IMMEDIATELY. you're weakness is at the point, so pray Burke can even be 70% of what Lillard was, but frankly even if Burke sucks nuts, it's not all bad. Try and pick up an AB type player (after you let him go this offseason) and go with that. Beverly/AB aren't the greatest, but with the rest of that lineup who cares.
     
  5. basketballholic

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    Trey Burke is a severe downgrade to Jeremy Lin and he does not fit. Rookie PG who controls the ball.
     
  6. brennan713

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    Rumors are that Luol Deng might go to the Wizards for the #3 pick and Emeka Okafor. Deng is a two-time all star who's proven he is a worth his salary, D-Mo has not. I would give D-Mo away for a top 5 pick but that isn't happening.
    I don't think an offer of D-Mo for a top 5 pick even gets answered by the Wizards when they get a 2x all-star in return and shed Okafor's salary.
     
  7. basketballholic

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    Washington isn't trading the #3 pick and Okafor's expiring contract for Deng's expiring contract. And then have to worry about Deng walking on them?? And locking him in on another 5 yr deal???

    Washington is much better off to draft Porter at #3 and hold on to Okafor's expiring deal as a trade asset at the trade deadline. Deng doesn't make them contenders. They need to build from their young base.


    So..scratch that trade.
     
  8. JayZ750

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    We shall see. That's the NBA draft for you.

    I'd rather have the (long-term) potential of Burke and cap space than Lin.
     
  9. MadMax

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    you lost me right there.
     
  10. brennan713

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    Like I said, it was just a rumor.
     
  11. mike_lu

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    While I would trade DMo for a 3rd pick pretty much in any draft, I think people severely underestimate the upside potentially of DMo.

    While he was poor defensively, and was miscast in the stretch 4 corner-shooting role, which he isn't ready for, what makes DMo's potential high is that 1) his defense is 80% related to his weight/strength, which can be corrected (note I didn't say 'will', but 'can'), and that on offense he could get off pretty much any shot he wanted. He took a lot of open 3s, he could get shots off or pass it off when he put the ball on the floor and took it to the rim, and he could score from the post-up position.

    Did DMo do it enough, offensively? No. Did he shoot a high percentage? No, especially on 3s, but you can clearly see that with further seasoning, it isn't out of the imagination that he could be a 7ft stretch 4 shooting 40% on corner 3s (lower overall on 3s, of course), and have a post game that is difficult to guard.

    It is still my opinion that he has so much more offensive upside than Terrence Jones, who for all his athleticism and ability to cut, really doesn't have a go-to shot and takes a relatively long time to get a shot off. TJones, on the other hand, is a more balanced player and can be a big plus defensively, and I'm quite high on him as well.

    But I certainly would not be ok trading DMo for the 13th pick in this draft, unless someone fell through the gaps (say Zeller). In this draft, the 13th pick may not be that much better than an early second rounder. The tiers are much flatter.
     
  12. Mirri3000

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    Bad poll, taking into accounts of what the Rox want to do this year in FA. Even if we could sign Dwight, and still make this trade, I'd say no, simply because Motiejunas has perhaps the best offensive skillset in the league for a big man, just needs to fill out.
     
  13. J Sizzle

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    Yes....because obviously
     
  14. Htownballer38

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    Don't see any of those teams giving up their top 10 draft pick for D. Mo. Lol not happening. Going to have to give up more than D.Mo to land a top 10 selection.
     
  15. Louka

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    omgTHEpotential is DMo trying to test his value. Sorry mang
     
  16. HOUSTONJS

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    Do you know how fast I would foam at the mouth if this went down?
     

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