Would you give up the #14 and #16 picks of this draft to land Pau Gasol?

with all the stars clustering together in todays NBA, we gotta stay committed to morey's plan to pounce when the right opportunity presents itself.

dont blow our wad on gasol now (unless the asking drops considerably) and keep building for when OKC and MIA are fading.

think long term...

 

Lowry, Scola, and #16 for Gasol. Hopefully draft Zeller at #14 and go to war with:

Dragic
Lee
Parsons
Gasol
Motie

with
Zeller
PPat
Camby
Budinger
Morris coming off the bench.

Once again, you could flip around PPat and Zeller, start Gasol at center and Patterson at the 4, and you could flip in Morris at SF and move Parsons to SG in a big lineup if need be.

Or you could then dangle 14 for a lower first rounder and a second rounder and pick up somebody like Taylor with the lower first round pick and Doron Lamb or Kevin Murphy in the second.

 

You are absolutely correct to point out that that is my opinion. But it is also my opinion that if he is not dumped in a big deal for a max contract he will either finish out his career here or be amnestied. He and Gasol are the same ages. Gasol will get tons of attention because he can effectively man the 5. Scola is an above average 4 who has never and will probably not ever make an all star appearance. 3 years and $31 million.

 

No.

No way.

If you're talking, say, Scola + Dalembert + #16 or Marcus Morris (which really isn't equal value but hey, why overpay now?), I'd be okay with it.

Sessions opted out but he says the Lakers want to bring him back. Of course he would say that, but if it's the case, I won't bother too much with, "As far as Lowry + Scola etc etc", given that the Lakers still have Steve Blake as a backup and I wouldn't want to do the Lakers any favors by taking him off their hands.

Save Lowry and the #14 to get us a top 10 pick. Maybe the #16 with Lowry would be okay, but I don't want to do the Lakers gigantic favors by giving them someone at #14 who slid out of the top 10 (PJones, TJones, Sullinger, whomever) who actually winds up being good. I hate the Lakers and I especially hate their fans and I don't want to help them have a future. We already tried that last December. Stern's rescinding of the trade did us a favor in that respect.

I'm sure having Gasol to help tutor DMo and entice Llull to come over is a bonus to having his high basketball IQ and skills on the team. I'd rather trade for him than for Dwight Howard (I just do not like the guy, sorry).

 

Completely depends on the market for Lowry, Scola and other guys. If you can get, say, #6 or #8 in a Lowry deal, and/or feel comfortable about a package deal (Scola/Martin, etc.) for another star-level player, I'd absolutely give up those picks for Gasol. It's a no-brainer in terms of value, without taking into consideration where the team is at in the big picture of contending.

But if the Gasol deal is it and the rest of the roster mostly stays the same, I wouldn't do it. I don't buy into the theory that Gasol is declining, but he clearly isn't an elite difference-maker by himself and only has another 2 or 3 years of peak production, in all likelihood.

It made sense last December, when Nene was waiting in line behind him, 2-3 years was 3-4 and you still had flexibility for further moves. Now? I'm not sure. The only thing I am sure of is that Gasol by himself, without significant further moves, doesn't move the needle all that much... and would (in this scenario) cost you multiple cheap, young pieces for a team that may need to completely rebuild.

So for me, it depends on what the rest of the market is. The tricky issue for the Rockets is that they may have to wait-and-see what develops through mid-July, for many of those "other" moves (Clutch and Bima talked about this on the podcast). I'd say the best chance for a Gasol deal involving 14/16 isn't now, but maybe later on in the summer, much like the Artest deal in 2008 involving Donte Greene. If other things go well for Morey and if LA likes the players the Rockets choose, I could see a deal getting done later on. But without knowing the other dominoes (or having a very good feeling about them), it's too risky for us.

 

I'm pretty sure you could get #9 or #10 for #14 and #16.

So essentially it would be Gasol for #9 or #10, Scola and Dalembert who you'd have to waive/trade to even make this possible.

 

At this point, I almost want the Rockets to acquire Gasol, just to prove to all the fools that are in love with the guy what a complete disaster it would be.

 

Unless someone inexplicably drops to 14, yes... yes I would. (Assuming this was the Scola + picks trade that was mentioned in the other thread.)

 

Lets do it

Spoiler

 

Sure, the Rockets do not need MORE young players....if they are truly trying to win, having another couple of assets melting on the bench is a waste of time.

DD

 

u_lose_biatch!!

 

stupid idea

 

Hell no. If you want people gone get rid of the guys you know are already worth nothing on this roster. Forget about needing to see more of anyone else we have already. use those guys to make the deal if you really really have to.

 

I'd do that especially if we net get the #8 (Leonard) pick for Lowry, a late-mid rd pick (Teague) for Martin and Bud, and somehow nab Orlando Johnson in the 2nd rd.

 

While I doubt there is a player at 14 or 16 better than Gasol , the Rockets cant simply ship 14 &16 for Gasol - they have to make the $$ work.

If it were just the picks for Gasol - I'd consider it strongly.

Considering you have to make the salary work which means sending out at least two other assets - Absolutely Not.

 

I voted no, but if this coincides with a play to get another 7 footer then I'm all for it.

I believe the best use of those picks are assets more so than getting more role players, but Gasol alone isn't going to help this team enough to justify his salary.

 

For the love of God enough about Pau Gasol. The Rockets don't need a soft euro on the last third of his career.

 

It depends on who else we can put around him. If we can get some quality vets, that could be a contending team.

 

This.

 

I like Gasol and I would trade for him here for a multitude of reasons (not only is he a baller but he also is coming off the books soon). But both picks for him? Nope. One of the picks with players attached to make Lakers' needs/cap fit I would do.

16 + Scola + Dalembert sounds good to me. Both picks? No, we have other needs to fill at a rookie contract salary.