1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Would you gamble on Zion Williamson?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by larsv8, Jun 1, 2022.

?

Would you offer Zion a 4 year max, all guaranteed?

  1. Yes

    30.8%
  2. No

    69.2%
  1. Believe It!

    Believe It! Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    4,559
    Likes Received:
    6,592
    Yeah that sounds like a great idea.
     
  2. kjayp

    kjayp Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    8,959
    Likes Received:
    7,781
    for a straight up signing... using existing space?
    Sure, I'd take that gamble...
    He's gonna be in with other lottery picks... if we get a good coach... can get all the youngsters on the same page... add a couple locker room vets...
    i'm more about guys with higher character and work ethic... but if we can pull him for nothing but cap space... i'd be wary - but i'd prob pull the trigger on that contract...

    "the process" is a good baseline to build from - but ya gotta take a few swings...
     
  3. ico4498

    ico4498 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    3,764
    Likes Received:
    1,510
    super-friends destinationville.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  4. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    10,428
    Likes Received:
    14,925
    I'd gamble he can finish a 72 oz steak in an hour.
     
  5. wlekfjv923n

    wlekfjv923n Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    738
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Exactly. We can afford to be patient right now, no need to make risky moves. Patience is so underrated in NBA team building
     
    Believe It! and hakeem94 like this.
  6. jdiggidy

    jdiggidy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2018
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    374
    Reminds me of Kelvin Cato BUT obviously way higher ceiling. Kelvin got a big contract and played well below its value. His heart wasn’t in basketball. It was just a means to do other things in life.

    The concern with Zion is similar. While the upside is great assuming he could figure it out the down side seems more likely based on what we have observed so far in his short career and those injuries are a huge risk.

    Wouldn’t be angry with Rafa but would advise against. One things for sure this would be a defining move for him. Succeed and make a name for himself. Fail and it would take years for him to get another GM shot.
     
  7. Tom Bombadillo

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    29,091
    Likes Received:
    23,991
    Undoubtedly tempting, but also terrifying. And I bet Jalen Green will have some pull by then.

    I'd like to see Banchero and Sengun more first.
     
  8. VoR

    VoR Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2020
    Messages:
    1,988
    Likes Received:
    2,761
    Kyrie>Ayton
    Ayton>Zion
    Tyus Jones >Kyrie

    I'll take Tyus Jones for $700, Alex.
     
    theDude likes this.
  9. Corrosion

    Corrosion Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    10,038
    Likes Received:
    13,264
    No .... Hell No.


    I've played as many NBA games as this dude in the last calander year, no way I'm giving him max money with foot injuries that reduce mobility / explosiveness.
     
    #29 Corrosion, Jun 2, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2022
    luckyman76 and hakeem94 like this.
  10. Swapshop

    Swapshop Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2016
    Messages:
    3,880
    Likes Received:
    4,612
    The only guaranteed thing about this guy is he won't be playing half the season every year.
     
  11. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,672
    Likes Received:
    10,150
    Coolaid!!!!!
     
  12. BMoney

    BMoney Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2004
    Messages:
    19,305
    Likes Received:
    13,049
    Houston is one of the worst cities in the world to watch your weight and diet in.
     
    theDude, Invisible Fan and Aruba77 like this.
  13. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    29,945
    Likes Received:
    8,030
    Do it. He already proved he is an elite player at the NBA level. Done. Elite. He fell victim to propaganda and social influence after the injuries. But all the questions on the court were not only answered, but bolded and underlined. As a rookie no less. He's from Duke too. The kid checks all the boxes. The worst outcome is that he is too injured to play. And you know what that means, more core draft picks. We aren't expected to contend. Who cares about the money. This is huge upside with literally no consequences for us.
     
    #33 PhiSlammaJamma, Jun 2, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2022
  14. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    15,419
    Likes Received:
    18,938
    I think you’d have to see at least one healthy season from the guy before giving him the full guaranteed max. I’d wait and see how next season plays out before doing anything.

    if we end up with Paolo I have a feeling he’ll make everyone forget about Zion.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,046
    Things I'd gamble on Zion:

    • Money pool over/under on how overweight he'd show up to training camp
    • Underwriting insurance for some big related injury
    • Pro eating contest odds...That skinny Japanese guy better Try Harder CLAP CLAP CLAP
    • Completing that McDonald's Monopoly Millionaire sweepstakes. **** boardwalk and park place. Homie got 3 pieces each.
     
  16. BigggReddd

    BigggReddd Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    5,093
    Likes Received:
    6,077
    6 months ago I’d have said yes all day but I have more hesitation now assuming Banchero is a Rocket. I don’t think there’s space for two guys like that on the floor, maybe I’m wrong.

    Still voted yes
     
  17. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    99,263
    Likes Received:
    49,011
    Not really a gamble if you do not include young players... would be a gamble for potential contenders.

    He is a walking and dunking meme that I do not care that much about.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,605
    Likes Received:
    32,168
    He's half a hot pocket away from eating himself out of the league altogether. Hard pass.
     
  19. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    19,925
    Likes Received:
    31,270
    I dont know. Is Zion going to commit to a healthy lifestyle and lose some weight? Anyone have his TRUE current weight or his max weight when out of shape? His list weight of 285 is still high IMO and I would guess he's way north of 300 by now. Above the rim players at that weight just seem like a bad idea.

    If we draft Chet and sign Zion it would make for quite the polar opposites!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    21,082
    Likes Received:
    22,527
    That’s a tough one. If it cost us nothing but a second rounder and we lose Wall in the process (sign and trade?) I’d give Zion a shot with Lucas mentoring him.

    Need 2 years to fully slim him down. If we can get him to a relatively light weight it will really free him from injuries. Other than that he needs work on his 3pt form. Hope he’s been working on that at least.

    I don’t like the professionalism he’s shown so far, we’d be hoping he grows up mentally too.
     

Share This Page