Would you feel better if the Rockets listened to us?

Like the government, we are too passionate to make decisions.

I don't like what CD and Les have done lately, but they are professionals.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=criticise

"Criticise": .......Australian for "criticize"

 

They do listen to us, otherwise they would be poor businessmen.

DD

 

Yep, we don't want a pay cut.



DD

 

I'd feel better if they listened to me anyways.

 

There some genuinely good ideas posted here, but the bad ideas outweigh the good by far.


One move I would've tried to make would've been to get Jermaine O'Neal from Portland when we traded Pippen. I liked his upside even when he was riding pine behind Rasheed and Brian Grant.

 

I don't think they should.

Think about it, I'd guess majority of the fans on this board have never played organized basketball game at high school or above level. 99.999% of us have no real feel for the game at this level, only talk about it from our own imagenation, which make no sense more than half of the time anyway.

But they might actually do.

I know many of the pro coaches & players listen to the sports talk show all the time, some of them actually call in to discuss the thing fans brought up. I remember the former header coaches of 49ers were the royal listeners of local radio KNBR, called in from time to time. So the Rockets management might have been doing the same thing.

How in the world can we know Juggie, or armed are actually not Steve or Cat? or Yetti actually is not Yao himself?

In fact, I think Will probably is CD, who wants to prepare fans expectation by posting threads, such as "Sell on High", etc.

 

I don't think you have to have played ball anywhere to understand the game.

Just as women can understand football enough to be sideline reporters, others can understand basketball.

It is not that complicated a game.

I mean how hard is it to look at the team and see who is screwing up?

It is so fricken obvious to even neophyte fans.

Basketball is a game, and some fans are VERY knowlegeable about it.

For instance, if you saw Steve with the ball on a 2 on 1 break, and you were the defender, what would you do?


Commit completely to stopping Francis, because no way in HELL will he pass the ball......

Most fans know this, and believe me, most NBA coaches and players know this too.

Observation is king.

DD

 

How about you pay them to listen to your advice?

 

Yeh, but most of us don't know why a player does what he does, and how should he do it better. When you have never played the game at that level, your thinking process usually are off from what it is really happening out there.

I'm not saying the fans cannot have good suggestions, but if a GM actually needs to listening to what the fans say to do his job, then he probably shouldn't have his job in the first place.

There are coaches in NBA who have never played at Division I or above level basktball, but you don't see them become head coach instantly. They have to be a video guy, or doing some scouting for the team first, then become an assistant coach, finally become a head coach if they learn enough via that process.

 

Best example in this thread of why us fans do what we do for a living, and why CD, JVG, Rudy and co. do what they do for a living.

 

Daoshi,

If you played Junior High ball, it is the same game as it is in division one, the only difference is in the athleticism.

Organized ball is organized ball.

The game is not that complicated.

I play 3-4 times a week for 2 hours at lunch at the YMCA here in Austin.

And there are amazing athletes there that have the brains the size of a walnut.

And there are people that are not very athletic that make some amazing passes and plays, simply by knowing how to play the game.

It is so much fun to watch a team of intelligent ball players killing very athletic teams simply by executing the pick and roll, and cutting to the basket.

Same thing in the NBA.....intelligence and understanding of the game are not necessarily prevelant.

It is when a player combines Intelligence, Competitive drive, and athleticism that you get a super star.

Tons of players are great athletes but never understand how to really play the game.

It is not Rocket science, it is just basketball.

DD

 

I think it wouldn't hurt for CD's assistant (don't really know who that is) to go through this board a fewt imes a week.

There are thousands of members here who do nothing but watch this team and disect every single play. Out of the hundreds of thousands of ideas that are proposed here, some of them must be good enough for the organization to consider.

Do I think anyone should have a say in anything?

No. I'm just saying, if they have the time, they should use this board as a resource.

 

I don't think that any of us are more expert than CD, Les and whichever coach we have. That would be rather arrogant to believe. They have scouts, get to tryout the players, talk to thier previous coaches, etc.

BUT, their track record over the last few years has not been stellar, but average. I used to alway give them the benefit of the doubt to them, that they would do better than us fans. I no longer believe that. They are doing a lot of guessing too, and even though they have far more knowledge than we have, they think too much with their hearts, giving lesser players big contracts, and not letting go of some of our guys, or sweetening a deal to make one work, since they are so loyal.

In the last 5 years, we've lost out on trades for McGrady, Christie, J.ONeal, Lewis, Randalph, Tinsley, Marion, Artest, etc.

Now I'm not talking about listening to the panic posters, but some who are more informed and knowledgeable of players on other teams. For instance, if we had followed THACABBAGE's advice, we'd have all the players I just mentioned above, and only have lost Griffin and Dream a couple years earlier.

Now I feel the feeling to question management, though, whereas I didn't in years past.

 

I think the team would he horrific if it listened to these other hacks, but me, on the other hand...



Kidding, of course. Criticize CD/Rudy/JVG as much as you want, but every one of those guys knows more basketball than most of us will ever know.

 

I will give them the edge on knowing more <b>basketball</b>, but quite a few members question their <b>valuations</b> of players and <b>salary cap management</b>.

Moochie Norris:
Signed 10/9/01
6 years
$22.7 million
team option 2007

 

Right, and only what, half of the people on this board thought it was the most important move of the offseason to sign moochie, how quick ppl forget.

 

Crazy, isn't it? Moochie was actually loved on this board at one point. I still remember the Moochie animation with the funk music, that was hilarious.

 

Bad Contracts

Matt Maloney
Moochie Norris
Mo Taylor
Kelvin Cato

Bad Draft picks

Bryce Drew
Myrsad Turcan
Jason Collier
Eddie Griffin

Eddie Griffin, whom they did not even interview before hand because they didn't think they could get him.

Not drafting Rashard Lewis and then turning down an EG for Rashard trade 2 years ago.

The Rockets had a great run at drafting years ago, but as Rudy got less and less into scouting their drafts have suffered and so has the team.

I am not sure that CD is all that great a judge of talent.....

DD

 

CORRECTION:

Its Rockets science.