Nah...point is, this isn't the 1st shot he's taken at me, and I have no idea unless it's extreme political objection somehow carrying over to personal antipathy. I still think DOD is cool, but it's been pretty consistently negative for the past, oh, I'd say month or more...and it comes out of nowhere.
Uh, I was running amuck in the '60's and '70's, and I really don't have any idea about a number and wouldn't try... but things were far different back then and mutual physical fun just for the hell of it was the norm rather than the exception. At least that was my experience. Then I met my wife and was smitten. Still am. But I regret that most of the rest of you didn't live through that period. Perhaps you would understand my "what's the big deal??" attitude about MacBeth's situation, not to mention his living arrangements. I think Smeg is making more sense than I thought possible yet again. Sounds reasonable to me. Of course, we're not there.
What's confusing? My attempt at being amusing? Just being silly. I meant it as praise for a good post. I've always thought you were funny... so I'm not used to you being serious. And we aren't "there" so we're only getting our info via the wonder of the Net and second hand, as it were, from MacBeth.
Mac B... Bunny broiler .....run my man...run. The problem is that I just don't respect that business, or that choice of occupation. Just my hang up I guess...but I do want Mac-Jag to be careful.... I don't want to lose him around here, sometimes when I am wired late at night I just read his long winded posts and it puts me right to sleep. DD
Since this thread is all about moral dilemmas and reflecting on ones own hypocrisies, do you think its possible McB’s hypocritical act was considering the opportunity and ultimately going out with the girl? While many would have been all giddy to be asked out by an attractive girl, and then later faced the ‘moral dilemma’ when they learned her profession, McB seems to have faced the opposite challenge. Being the former model chick-magnet big-dicked stud, who happens to live with five college girls than he is, he’s frequently approached by attractive girls, and he always turns them down. Yet here, because of her profession, he was curious. Why should she be judged? She’s just a real person afterall?? But if that real person had been a teacher, lawyer, student, doctor or otherwise, and approached Big M at a bar, he would not have been interested. So, yes, me thinks you treated her differently. And it wasn’t being able to see past the profession to find the real her – seems you’ve met many attractive real her’s in your time and haven’t had the desire to delve into their characters. It was her profession. Her celebrity. And that’s cool. We all judge. I wouldn’t want to date a pornstar, but I’d love to have a drink and chat with one. Or any other celebrities for that matter. On one level it’s flattering, that someone famous would be interested. They’ve also likely got interesting stories. And also, to be able to look past the celebrity, and know them on a personal level – ‘you know, she’s really just a normal girl…” very empowering. McB, you’ve tasted the life of a groupie. Someone you might not ordinarily have given a second thought to, yet they’re famous so there must be something more here. And there usually is. And in the process, you’ve started one of the most entertaining threads in a long, long time.
Christ, even your reflections are pages long. Your political views don't concern me. I don't care for politics - it's a bunch of wasted energy most often leading to no conclusion. I'll let you argue with the political geniuses about the right, the left, the up, the down, etc. I couldn't care less as I usually avoid those threads. You add humor to the BBS in your own way, MacBeth. Everytime I see one of your Miltionian epics written just to say something like "I hafta pee", I can't help but laugh. I don't hate you, so don't lose any sleep. "Four score and seven years ago our forefathers... ... ... ... 1 pm... 2 pm... Monday... Tuesday... June... July... ... and that's why we should trade Moochie. Agree? Disagree?"
Deckard, here is something not very serious that seems relevant in this thread. In Adult Entertainment type movies, often real 'man gravy' is not used, as a substitute they use a combination of Margarita Mix Hair Conditioner and Chicken soup with the bits strained out!! Keep this in mind MacBeth
This reminds me of a gross out contest between two of my friends in highschool. It started at dinner, both of them tried to eat/drink something that the other guy wouldn't. It was pretty tame at first, I remember them gulping down ranch dressing from one of those plastic tubs that butter comes in. Anyways, it progressed to licking deoderant, eating hair gel, drinking shampoo. Actually, I think shampoo was the one thing that one of the guys stopped at. Crazy times.
Oski - have a worse one, we were sitting at a mates place one day, had quite a few beers and eating hot chips, with salt and vinegar on them, then my mate says i will go ml (millilitre) for ml (millilitre) with anyone, skulling the vinegar. His girlfriend replies immediately SURE No problems. and then she proceeds to drink the Vinegar like it is water and my mate not expecting anyone to take up the challenge had to match it and then struggle to hold his lunch down. very funny stuff.
I tell ya, I've had many a drunk conversations with my buddies about this topic, and I am convinced that Peter North must use special effects. There is no humanly possible way that his gravy is like that.
Uuugh, vinegar straight up, that's hardcore. I'd like to meet a girl like that. I didn't meet too many local girls when I visited Australia.
Damn KimKam(i don't know if this nick will stick), that is pretty funny. This is the only place I have ever heard people call it gravy.
MacBeth, I'm not saying that I don't believe you but what are the odds that a p*rn star sits next to you on a train? And then in a city the size of Toronto you just happen to run into the same p*rn star again later that week? Also I don't think that there is a need to worry about mentioning her name. I'm sure that there are many posts all over the web about her. It seems extremely unlikely that she would ever come across this thread. Plus I assume that neither MacBeth nor Jag is your real name. And how can you post so much? All the assistant professors and post-docs that I know work really, really long hours. Congrats all the same. I enjoy reading your posts in many different threads.
Look, I probably should have found this thread earlier, so most of my points may have been already covered. I'm going to sound extremely conservative on this issue, which is something I certainly am not, as I don't hold myself hostage over any moral values just because they are perceived to be the "right ones". Anyway. I will side with Manny on this one, and to a lesser extent, with Dadakota. It's just not worth it. It may be a stupid analogy, but this situation reminds me of masturbation all the may. It seems like a good idea at the time, but it sure feels stupid after you are done with it. Sure it may sound appealing in a boyish kind of way, and it isn't really as far as I am concerned a moral issue about what she does, though I have to echo the sentiments exposed by Dadakota, (even though not politely put) that it really isn't worth it. Macbeth, you seem to have a reasonable amount of knowledge, judging by your well thought posts. This situation really doesn't seem to fit you character. You are acting on primal instinct alone, and I have to use a line from a very, very stupid movie I once saw: "Don't let your dick rule your life". Too many risks involved man. The possibility of emotional attachment, AIDS, and so forth. And besides, no matter how much experience you may claim to have, chances are she sees you as no more than a plaything. I could say a lot more, but I have to go out and meet my girlfriend. Take care. And get your head straightned out before you end up doing something you might regret. Just another quick piece of advice: You have said yourself that after spending some time with her, you came to the realisation that she is just another woman, after the initial pornstar effect. If that is so, then why bother? Why deal with all the baggage and issues? It's a definitive no-no. And if I were you, I would seriously stop thinking as yourself as Mr. High and Mighty with the big dick who is ready to take on Ms. Pornstar and all her lovely LA connection friends. Underestimate these people at your peril. You have no experience in that world, and for all your smarts, your are certainly out of your league. Cheers.
Thanos, I am a very blunt guy, I guess I could be a little more polite, but then I run the risk of not getting my point across, not to mention, that a lot of times I am giggling as I post something knowing it is contreversial. DD
you are thinking too much. Go have dinner. Don't try to read some else's mind regarding getting "too serious." i think you are totally thinking way too much about this; hence, the continued play by play...which we all appreciate. We probably all would be thinking too much re: a celebrity date...right? But listen to us when we tell you to just chill, and go for the ride. Stop reading between the lines and just be yourself and enjoy yourself...if you do that, she will too.
