MacBeth, I think you made a good decision to call her without having any preconceived notions. In all sincerety, good luck with your new friendship.
Because I have no life... After a good search I found pics of Tara Patrick and her fiance...his name is Evan Seinfeld. He's in the rock group Biohazard. He's also on the HBO show OZ. Proof that you DON'T have to be good looking to nail a pornstar!
Jag, It seems to me that you are an interesting guy. and you and i would never get along. We are simular. Very simular! I will qualify all I write with "it is MY understanding that..." I say this because through reading your posts is like reading my own thoughts and recounting personal stories. I however in this case am standing outside the woods this time and I and see inside. Thou doth protest too much. you want it and wanted it from the get go. It is the natural way of the male predator. however you have to go to elaborate details including drinking to rationalize doing why yout gut is screaming at you to do. It is your hangups, and your self imposed sense of "im better than that" that make you go throught this ritual. and posting? hmm why do you post. you post for some kind of satisfaction in the hero worship. I understand. I assure you I do. It is another basic human urge. but deep in your heart you didnt need to post anything. you could have just talked to a roomate. you know the roomates you make a point to mention often ok I am kinda re-reading this post and I dont like how its coming out. lets just say that every time I am in a situation like this I do the same thing. and I can assure you that afer its over i look back, and I am sure you do to. I do not regret, I do not relish, I just look back in awe of my life and am more confused about what thell I am supposed to do next time. that is untill next time comes and I run out of excuses and act on this next experience. I imagine you may not be a terrificly happy man. I know I am not. But your life is absolutely filled with fun times and great memories. two final points that actually will make sense. 1. I am really writing about myself here, just thing I may be writing about you too. 2. how can Toronto have more hot chicks than NY there is a phrase used in Paintball that is also true when it comes to hot chicks. "accuracy through volume" the ugly ones are easy to ignore
My......dear......god. How cool is this; guys hangin out, drinkin, talkin sports. If there was breaking news that we traded Griffin, Mobley, Bush, WHOEVER.....I'd be hard pressed to leave this thread. I have a huge Chemistry test i havent even BEGUN to study for tomorrow morning, and the worst part is I could care less. This is too damn cool. Quite possibly the coolest thread ever. Also, I wonder what the moderators think about all this. I know theyre laughing just as hard as we are, but I understand they wouldn't want to get involved for their image's sake. Fair call. Still it'd be funny to get their take. MacBeth, you and me sort of have alot in common. I'm a liberal and I recently made my first p*rn video in the dorms.....well maybe not all that much in common. But hey man, good job. You only live once. I figured from your writing style and tone in most of your posts, you were older for some reason. Boy was I wrong Oh and I played MacBeth in high school. One of my favorite roles
I wish I hadn't missed the first three hours of this thread. After that there was just plain too much to respond to. You're doing the right thing, MacBeth. All your doubts, etc, were right kinds of doubts and all your getting over them was more right. Those ones who think any of this is a bad idea either think they're gonna live forever or believe in reincarnation. Life is finite. Do those things you feel like doing, as long as they're not harming anyone. If tenure's threatened by that, well, there's probably all kinds of things that would threaten tenure. Can't live a full life worrying about stuff like that. And I'm not talking about banging a p*rn star. Big deal about that. I am also a liberal who gets way too much action. It's fun to know famous people and even more fun to fool around with them. But it's much more exciting to know the girl if you're interested in her, whoever she might be, in every kind of way. Sex is just one of those ways. And if it's a means toward knowing the girl better, it's better sex too. The ones who are worried about suffering by comparison should be worried about that with anyone -- not just p*rn stars. And the ones who think p*rn stars are so much better at sex than anyone else just haven't had all that much sex. Not that that's a bad thing, just saying... Keep on keepin on, MacB. Hope it's fun, whatever it turns out to be. Worrying about anything else, least as long as you're not planning the wedding, is just silly. She's a person, like we all are. Treat her right, the way you'd like to be treated, and enjoy her company til you don't. But I trust you knew all that before you started the thread.
I've decided that MacBeth is the evil version of me. C'MON, C'MON DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS! OOHH AHH AHH AHH AHH! (sorry, I've loved this song ever since the Texan's started playing)
Damn!U are the luckiest guy I've ever met! While my biggest issue is to actualy find a girl(No pbl with me,just don't get to meet many) urs is to know whethere or not date a PORNSTAR!And even then u manage to find a solution... Come to think of it,do u know how to coach a NBA team,who's been out of the play offs for 4 years?... Seriously speaking,I happy that all came out for the best for u. ALA
Just got in....Had a great time, in many ways. Don't see anything progressing beyond where we are now; 'friends'... I don't know if you guys were expecting a lot of 'details', but they're not going to be forthcoming...But you guys are awesome, and I feel very close to many of you now...Am probably going to see her a couple more times before she goes, and I'll let you know. Got home to 13 telephone messages about this, and am sort of wishing now that the 'extra' stuff about this would go away, at least for now. Other than that it is not nearly as big of a deal as I built it up to be...Don't read that as I was dissapointed; far from it...But in the end, as many people have noted, there are lots of hot women, lots of intelligent, interesting, sexual, sensual, wise, kind, and honest women, and I don't think I should have ever looked at this as more than another experience with an attractive woman. She's a lot of fun...and I will say amazing! in the way you'd expect...But she is, and I don't mean this in a derrogatory way, just another woman, with some seriously attractive qualities, but also some limitations in that regard. There is no danger of more than a physical friendship. Will read the posts I have missed, and hit the hay for a bit. Night... PEACE JAG
Really? I'm not sure why, but I never even seriously considered that some of you would be doubting me...I suppose because of my not really handling this, initially, the way a 'real man' would, it didn't occur to me that people would think I was trying to impress...Hmmm...Well, cool, if you have doubts, that's up to you. Take it easy.
Lol! Well, when you put it that way...lol! But, for better or worse, this is my life. And those aren't nearly the most unusual aspects of it...But I am used to reactions about the 1st 2 aspects you mentioned, although I don't remember saying I was jaw droppingly anything; I've known some women who didn't think I was anything that special to look at...there are different tastes. But either way, I have been living with women for years and years, and I lived with 7 for 3 years, so 5 is not that big of a deal, and it is one of the most mentioned but misunderstood aspects of my life; I can't say I blame guys...I would have assumed it to be a lot bigger deal than it is too, if I hadn't lived it for so long, but it's really not. It can be annoying, it can be great, it can be too much, and it can be homey. I am happy with it. Peace JAG
Nah...it's cool, DD, but thanks for the concern. It is what it is, and in no danger of being more, so it's cool.
Not with that analogy, but the thought behind it HAS occured to me more than once, and I have resolved NOT to resolve anything to the negative, and then go back on myself whenever she's in town and calls...I'm just gonna go with what feels right...And try and avoid the subject of going to LA for a whole bag of chips, as she keeps 'joking' about... BTW, if I do, what other chips than the ones already mentioned in here should I be asking about? Joke...heh...I think...
I had a similar situation. Years ago, I was at Rick's in Houston for my best friend's bachelor party. One of the dancers befriended me, so I got her number (a real one). I called her later because the guy I was staying with liked her friend and he wanted us to hook-up. When I did, she asked me over that night, but her friend was not interested so I didn't go. I went back to LA, where I was staying with my sister and brother-in-law until I got my own place. She sent me a letter and picture. A few weeks later, she called from Vegas and her and her friend from Penthouse wanted to fly out and stay w/ me. I never returned the call. Maybe chicken****, but just not my bag. I prefer demure.
very interesting post...Wish i had more energy for a typical Macbeth response ( ie. long )...A few points, maybe I missed it, but why wouldn't we get along? I know it now looks like I wanted it all along, and just was looking for someone to 'talk me into it'..But, if that's the case, I have abandoned my usual ability to see through to my motives. I really was bothered by the moral dimension...had I just been wanting my arm to be twisted the way i wanted, i would have listened to my freinds who saw her, but I didn't want it to just be about what she looked like, which is really all most of them were reacting to...I did want to emphasize that I was reacting to that too, but I didn't want it to come down to that. I was really in a placw where I felt wrong either way i went...and I didn't, you will recall, give her a bell the first time 'round. It wasn't a ritual, I wanted to know if i was being a prig, a hypocrite, and a coward by hiding behind socialized standards that I purport to dismiss as gender based judgmental crap. Do I mention my rromies that much? there are 5 of them, and they are a HUGE factor in my life...Many other people mention ther wives/kids/girlfriends a lot, is it just more notable because it's unusual? Am really, really NOT looking for hero worship...My ego is such that it is pretty immune to criticism or praise, and i was frankly surprised that there has been so much support. It has alos occured to me that some whose opinions I value, like say W&S, will be 'dissapointed' in me, and when I went to another thread and saw Batman's post, realized he hadn't posted here, it occured to me that he disapproved too..he didn't, and clarified that, but i was honestly much, much more aware of potential negative reactions to this thread than positive. I think , in the end, my position was a moral one, but I am aware that others may have different ways of looking at things, and I fully expect this issue to come up in a derrogatory manner in the future when I'm in the midst of a political debate...I could even nominate a top candidate for potential poster to do so first, but I'll withhold it in case I'm wrong. I would be a more interesting read if i weren't so happy, but generally I am. I have moments, of course, but my life, starting with being raised by an artist mother who everyone had a crush on,having a ( divorced and living elsewhwere) father who worked for my favorite sports team, etc. has been very, very adventurous, although many of the more notable moments have been very, very painfull and negative. I used to think that everyone had a life like this beneath the 'normal' exterior, but years of freinds' and others' reactions has left me in little doubt that my life has been about extremes...up and down. 1) Cool...probably many of us do that. 2) I guess it's a relative thing...Used to live in NYC, and there were many hotties, so who knows...But have you ever considered how many of the 'hot' Hollywood ladies are Canadian, compared with the relative population? Hey, whatdyaknow...it ended up long anyhow...Peace Jag
Of course we do! How do you compete with the rich, right-wing conservatives who can "buy" on the spot?! YES! I would date a pornstar. Afterall, "She's just a girl, standing in front of a guy, asking him to love her."
You call that long?? that aint long by your normal standards.. glad its working out for ya...just relax and enjoy where it goes from here..and if ya get the chance to go to Cali and get into a 3-some or a 4-some with her friends.. BY all means man...DO IT!!! this thread has been waaay to entertaining... Sigs are a-changing left and right...
