Well that's why you and I are married and JAG is asking about dating p*rn stars. I would have a problem with it too, I just love playing Devil's advocate... he he he. Besides she's still hot and if JAG dates her I can still see her naked and he gets all the baggage.
MacB, two thoughts: 1) You live in Toronto, yes? Aren't you worried that she may be one of these "super spreaders?" 2) Also, you should start any date buy buying lots of coffee for her. For one, she's not used to the talking part. But more importantly, who on earth could be used to *your* version of the conversational part of a date? (scene: K*** checks her watch -- 3 a.m. -- and tries to maintain a brave smile as MacB launches into the seventh chapter of his spontaneous "history of p*rnography in the Yukon" monologue. She knows the footnotes are still to come).
Macbeth, I would not do it, most of the women in that industry have significant baggage. A friend of mine used to date Ginger Lynne Allen, and he thought it was cool for a bit, but in reality he said he felt inadequate in the hay. If you want to go out as friends and see what kind of person she is underneath the personna that might be interesting, but as a girlfriend, nah...pass. Plenty of hot girls that don't have sex with multiple partners for a living.... Ask yourself this...would you date a hooker????? Also, when you whip it out and she says "Who are you going to please with that small thing?" Remember to look at her calmly and say.. "Why me of course" DD
37?!?!?! Well, I haven't read the whole thread, so I'm assuming nobody has whipped out that bad boy yet...
Okay MacBeth, rather than reading through all this, I'll give you a response to your question of whether or not you are being a hypocrite. In short, yes, you are. You are judging her based on what she does for a living, and making a decision based entirely on that profession. That does make you a hypocrite, no matter how you spin it. The final determination will be what YOU choose to do about this situation. What you've got here is an honest moral dilemma. It is a dilemma that most of us are envious of, but that doesn't change the fact that you've got some wrestling to do with yourself <-----that pun is intended, btw. I am very serious, and I'll do my best to give you an honest answer, but I haven't lost my sense of humor. What your buddy Jeff is trying to make you do, even if he doesn't realize it himself, is make you come to grips with the simple fact that people are judgmental, and there's really nothing we can do about it. Some judgments are okay, and some are plain malicious. We make the decisions that we feel are best for ourselves and our loved-ones, and sometimes those decisions are based on judgments that we'd rather not think about or admit to. Do we intentionally not turn down "that street" or go through "that neighborhood" at certain times of the night? Of course we don't, because of the potential for danger. Do I not tell my girlfriend about some random chick I spoke with some random time? Of course I don't, because women are just funny like that (<----there's a judgment right there about my own girlfriend. Innocent or not, such a conversation would worry and upset her unnecessarily). Why do we do these things? Because we have a pre-conceived notion based on what we know, aka a judgment, as to what negative impact these events could have on us or people we care about. What I'm trying to get across is that sometimes it is okay to judge based on what you know. I would call you "wrong" if you simply hated this woman based on what she does for a living just like I would call you "wrong" for hating someone for the color of their skin. But in this case, you are NOT wrong. What you're doing here is making a decision based on a judgment of a person's character because all of this could affect YOU. You weigh the positives vs. the negatives, and make the decision that is best for YOU. Without realizing it (maybe you are realizing it, I don't know), you're letting a utopian/PC ideal wrestle with reality: Your ideal is "Who am I to judge?" vs. the reality of "How can or will this affect me?" Yeah, I think you're a hypocrite. But you might cease to be if you realize that sometimes we have to make judgments, and that's okay. So many thoughts all at once....if you have a problem with it, that's fine. Just admit it, because the only thing that makes you hypocritical is this notion that people should never judge anybody for anything, whether it affects you personally or not. If it is against your moral and/or religious character, then it is perfectly within your personal limits to choose to not call her based on what you know about her. It is also perfectly within your limits to simply have a drink with her. You didn't state otherwise that I read, but maybe that's all she wants. I doubt seriously that she's looking for anything even remotely serious due to 1)her profession and 2)the fact that she'll only be in town for another week. Go out, have fun, and don't be so arrogant to assume that all she wants is either sex or a relationship. Seriously. All she wants is a drink. She's leaving in a week -- have a drink with her. At best, you get to hang out with a beautiful, famous woman for a few days. Test the waters of your morality: If it goes further, either physically or emotionally, and you don't want it to, then at worst you can forever tell your buddies that you got to break up with a p*rn star. They might make fun of you, but a decent man and/or good friend will respect your moral decision. In closing, you can easily solve the problem of whether or not you are a hypocrite by doing either of the following: 1. Call her and go out with her if she's inclined to do so. -or- 2. Admit that you have a problem with her profession; that you are making a judgment based on her profession because of how it could possibly affect you. ----- Now that I've said all that, ARE YOU F*CKING CRAZY??!!???!? Pick up the godd*mned telephone and call her! Call for the bragging rights, if nothing else! Besides, whoever said this chick would give it up to you, anyway? All she wants is a drink....have a drink with her! There's certainly nothing wrong with that. It not like you're trying to marry her next week or something, sheesh.
VINCENT - So you're gonna go out there, drink your drink, say "Goodnight, I've had a very lovely evening," go home, and jack off. And that's all you're gonna do.
1. It has to be Kobe Tai. One of the hints is that it is a 4-syllable name. But, reading it, Kobe Tai is 3 syllables tops, unless someone pronounces it for you (honestly, I don't see how you can get 4 out of that). Mac being unfamiliar with her wouldn't have known it was 4 (if it is). 2. I can't believe I read all that to avoid work. 3. It must suck for her and for all the other pornstars that she can't really have any sort of relationship without some heavy sexual tension. I imagine it is a somewhat lonely existence. 4. I would think it would definitely hurt your chances at tenure. Once you have tenure, though, you can be a p*rn star yourself. 5. I can't tell if you are (or were) a hypocrit or not because you haven't really explained what you've argued about it previously. Saying you shouldn't judge people is insufficient, imo. 6. You shouldn't make such decisions when you're drunk. You also shouldn't shoot your mouth off while you're drunk. 7. Because of this thread, you won't be able to tell her you post at this site. She may be curious, visit, and look at threads you started. You could at least argue, though, that you were drunk at the time. 8. I wouldn't date a p*rn star. There'd be too many people I'd want to murder. I'd befriend a p*rn star, but a romantic relationship would be some bad, bad news.
First name either begins with a "K" or her last name ends with a "K." Four vowels in her first and last names combined. Asian-American. Its got to be either: Tera Patrick -or- Kobe Tai Crap. I hate getting into threads like this so damn late.
Nice retort, JohnHeath! To answer MacBeth's original question... Would I have sex with a pornstar? Been there done that, when I lived in LA. However, I reserve the right not to incriminate myself, and you will have to get me mightily drunk if you want to hear the story. You probably would have never heard of her, and she is no longer in the business. Would I date or have a relationship with a pornstar? Are you out of your freaking mind??????
Ok, I only read the first post and not the subsequent 8 pages. But my observation is this: What freaking subway line is this? I have taken the 2-3 every damn morning for the past three years, reading all the way down (reading real smart-person type stuff, like the Times, New Yorker, Atlantic, Harpers), and I have never, ever, ever been approached by any female of any sort, animal vegetable or mineral, let alone a hot p*rn star. WTF!!!!
I don't have a problem with opinions at all, but I'm enjoying this thread and your language could get it shut down. Is that hard to comprehend?
I didnt use any vulgar language and when you are talking about p*rn stars, the things I described happen. So those are things that you have to talk about when discussing whether you would date a p*rn star or not. I wouldnt because of the reasons I previously stated. If you dont like it, then dont read it.
Between writing my posts and reading this entire damn thread, I have officially not done ANY work for about 2 hours. It was all worth it. Best of luck to you, Mac. And may I suggest starting a new thread after your date? This one is already a day-killer.
