What he's saying is that it's <B>IRRELEVANT</B> (happy?) because the only reason we entered the war is because we were bombed. It didn't matter by whom, whether it was Algeria, Japan or Germany, it just mattered that we didn't get into the war to help out, we got into the war to defend ourselves.
I wonder if there was this amount of confusion when Reagan announced his war on drugs. The way some of you are interpreting things I wouldn't be surprised if you were upset we don't go after Tylenol users. Anyways, these examples of terrorism (IRA, Basques, Chechnya) are all domestic terrorist problems. We haven't asked Russia to come into the US and help investigate our domestic terrorism or even these latest acts of terrorism. I think we're simply asking for political support and help with intelligence. Same thing with most countries that we've contacted. I don't think anyone is really expecting the US or any other outside nation to send special forces into Ireland, into Spain, into Chechnya, etc to battle all of the world's domestic terrorists.
Ah, the war on drugs. "Just say NO!" Hell, just seeing Nancy Regan say, "Kids, all you have to say is, 'NO'" made we want to reach for the hash pipe.
Jeff I know you are quite resourceful, so I wonder what you would bet the wages that Nike or any other shoe company pays are in relation to the rest of the wages in the countries that these factories operate.
This coming from the guy who claims we can't interpret anything. We would've bombed Algeria had they bombed Pearl Harbor. We wouldn't have bombed Algeria if they didn't attack us. Not too hard.
So bombing Algeria makes us involved in WW II? Oh I remember the Axis powers now... Germany, Japan, Italy, and Algeria. Yep...
Hell, everyone knows they were the most secretive and powerful force behind the Axis powers. Duh. Seriously, I just included Algeria in my example because you did. I don't think if Algeria would've bombed us we would've necessarily entered WWII (but I'm guessing if they're bombing us in the middle of that, it had something to do with that war), I'm saying that we would bomb Algeria if they bombed us...anytime, anywhere.
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"Everyone forces these women to work for 12 hours per day with no bathroom breaks at 25 cents an hour." That makes it ok!? So, it is ok to take jobs away from Americans because American workers demand too much pay? It's ok to basically enslave people so that a tennis shoe company can turn a profit? As Americans, aren't we supposed to be setting the example of how to treat each other, not having to hide our own heads in shame because of the greediness of a few corporations?
You didn't answer the question! If Nike pays 25 cents/hour what is the average wage in that country? Americans who make "too much money" lose their jobs all the time. It's part of the capitalist system. No foreign people are being chained and whipped into working for shoe companies. C'mon man...
Most - about 95% of the world hates us. I mean really hates us. These guys aren't really going to back us up when it starts getting really thick, except possibly the Canadians, British, and Aussies. And even they are question marks at times. If someone blew up the Kremlin we'd probably do pretty much nothing. We'd say alot, but do nothing - just as everyone else is doing right now. Of course, we should do something, because whoever blew it up probably has us next in their sights, but that's politics. That's diplomacy. But when it's your country that's being hit, you act. When the Chechens started bombing apartment buildings, the Russians reinvaded Chechnya, even though they didn't want to. When the Palestinians wouldn't stop sending their suicide bombers, the Israelis sicked the Mossad after them and started assassinating their leaders. Doing nothing against this kind of threat only invites the ineviteble - more attacks. So does taking action, but at least if you do that you're proactive and you've got a chance to kill that suicide bomber before he kills your countrymen. But that said, we absolutely must be prepared to act unilaterally, and to hell with what everyone else thinks. Allies or no allies, we've got to take these guys out. The UN can do whatever it wants, we've got some terrorists to kill.
From one of Mango's listed sites. (Thanks Mango) This is from the FAQ section. 9. What else would the workers be doing if they didn’t work for Nike? In a country with little to no social safety nets (public assistance, unemployment insurance, food stamps), other job opportunities for the workers might be: Working in a different factory with much of the same conditions. When a worker moves to a different factory, s/he must take a significant pay deduction for the first year. In addition, many workers who have significant experience are often denied jobs at other factories because management fears that they might try to form unions and "agitate" or educate other workers as to their rights; Working as a subsistence farmer if the person’s family still has land; Working as a personal servant for the upper-middle class or elites. Live-in housekeeper or maid is a situation where a person makes a small amount of money in addition to room and board, though they rarely can bring their children and/or spouse; Working as a construction worker This is a higher paying job than factory worker, but it is a temporary job and thus does not allow for a steady income; Doing laundry or other services for the upper-middle class or elites. Working as a prostitute. Frequently, people in this economically desperate situation resort to prostitution.
Jeff I have to say that there is a very strong perception around the world that the answer to your question is...not a chance in hell.
i would have to disagree. we are the melting pot of the world. many people would love to be able to live here. i have no idea about numbers, but i would assume we have one of the highest immigration of people coming in then most countries.
