I think it's the REFs helped us. If this kind of thing happen again, especially on the road, it wont count us a win any more.
Bonner if he made the shot the Refs woulda looked at the previous possession and said that there should be 0.08 seconds on the clock so the shot counts Spurs win the game...Rox screwed again...
^^ I heard Sean Iddiot bellyaching about the clock not being correct from the time Scola was fouled. shouldn't the clock stop when the ref blows the whistle? I would say a half second is about right, as far as reaction time from seeing the foul and blowing the whistle...
i don't know why, but i was thinking about this the other day. i was thinking 1.5 seconds but 1.0 is good as well. there should just be a clock that is always running that at least goes to hundredths of a second. then you just look at the hundredth the guy caught it and the hundredth he let it go (frame rate of 30 per second might limit you to nearest .03 seconds) and then determine if they got it off. it's ridiculous to have reaction times of .3 or .4 seconds on plays that start with .3 or .4 seconds. and either someone here posted it or i was watching a clip with jason kapono trying to get a shot off as fast as he could. and the fastest he could do was .22 seconds by almost being in his shooting motion as the ball hit his hand. even when he tried to just catch and do his motion at all it was well over .3 seconds. so bonner wasn't even close to getting it off in time considering he set himself.
hmmm, i always thought the trent tucker rule made shots with 0.3 illegal (there had to be at least 0.4) and then a few years ago, maybe after the fisher shot, they rules that you could now get a shot with 0.3 instead of 0.4. but that rule you posted says that you can't do it with even 0.3 and bonner's shot had to automatically not count. edit: and they probably should have put more time on for scola's foul, but then we wouldn't have played defense the same way since we knew any shot was impossible with 0.3.
There is no way that shot would have counted because there was 0.3 seconds on the clock and 0.4 seconds is the least time needed to get off the shot bonner did, i.e. derreck fisher in '04 playoffs against spurs. You imply have to tip the ball in with the amount of time left.
It better not have counted. I remember when Baron Davis did something like that in playoffs with Charlotte but as far as I know it is not allowed anymore.
To get a sense of how fast 0.3 seconds is, check this out: http://www.pressureprofile.com/case-study-kapono.php To beat 0.3 seconds, Kapono doesn't set and square.
Just like Bill Worrell said, that clock started way too late. I watched that play in slow-mo, and the clock started in the middle of Bonner's shot. He was nearly at the peak elevation of his shot and the clock was still at 0.3.
to clear everything up you need at least .3 on the clock for a field goal attempt (except a tip in which can be done in .1), Fischer made a shot in .4, but you need only .3 Bonner's last shot theoretically could of counted but just because you need at least .3 on the clock does not mean that his shot is automatically legit. bonner took way too long setting himself up, .3 has to be like a touch-pass, there's no way to catch the ball on your feet, jump, and release in .3 which is what Bonner so no the three would not have counted
