Would the Rockets be this good right now if we had Carmelo over Anderson?

Melo's efficiency has been around 53 TS% for the past three seasons. He's right in line with his recent career as a Knick. Once he started losing his athleticism he started settling for shots more and drawing fewer fouls. The hope was that we could make him more efficient as a third option here. Playing in OKC hasn't had any effect, positive or negative, on his overall efficiency.

 

at this point of his career, hes exactly what i just said. you still stuck on denver melo or something? thats what alot of you melo fans that dont watch enough basketball seem to want to believe. ny melo sucked, the current okc melo resembles alot of that. you probably need to watch more and get a reality check. but of course its everything else around him thats at fault and not him at all. which is absolutely false. notice how the knicks are taking a breath of fresh air and playing so much better as a team despite losing this "elite" player. i wonder why that is.

 

Melo is a far better scorer and player than Anderson.

he would fit in right away easily. can't believe people even try and discuss it

 

I really think Lebron will give us a serious look this summer.

Ya I'm not sure how u keep Capela might have to go to a nene/black/? Combo

 

after seeing him play the way he is in okc, its funny how people automatically think its a given. in reality its not. its not always about who's just better individually.

most of the people that fail to understand this are the ones who would just group players together regardless of fit and intangibles and believe thats how you build a team to win

 

Even after? Westbrook teams are always iso ball (see : Durant), that's the damn problem

 

you try playing next to Westbrook and in that system, it is horrible.

People need to look at the system they are in as well

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/...ssell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-problem

 

can't believe I voted for Ryno. But it's true. He's doing great this year and getting even more freedom with another playmaker that can find him. One thing he does that Carmelo doesn't is that he spaces the floor even further than most 4s do. Carmelo is arguably the better (at least more dynamic) shooter, but doesn't shoot nearly as far as Ryno does, so it opens up things for us in ways that maybe Melo couldn't. Only thing Melo has is more ability to pumpfake and create more of his own shots off the catch, but perhaps we don't really need that and Ryno's strength is more value for us anyway.

 

We will be better off next year by not having made the Melo trade.

 

Unfortunately that wouldn't work. All though Nene is skilled enough to be suitable his body wouldn't last. He just couldn't play the minutes.

 

TS is one measure but his overall offensive efficiency was much much higher last season.

 

You are confusing ability and role. In our system, we want Olympic melo, which is what Anderson is doing right now basically. Anderson will pass the ball if he doesn’t feel like it is the best shot or if he can’t get the shot off in time. Melo will just jack the ball up regardless of how terrible a shot it is. Again, melo can easily fit into this role given his scoring ability. This does not however change the argument of whether or not he is willing to play a role that largely diminishes the scope of his ability.

 

of course the same ole reasoning. despite the observations of melo that have little to do with westbrook, its of course something/someone elses fault. wb has nothing to do with melo being an iso player. he has nothing to do with melo being a chucker and a ball stopper. wb has nothing to do with melo being the player he is at this stage of his career. wb has nothing to do with the terrible shots he takes. these melo fans need to stop finding these scapegoats and try looking at the actual player first.

 

Right now against the Nets is not relevant.

When Anderson can't hit 3s at home against the Spurs in the playoffs.. then we can debate on how versatile Carmelo is offense

 

We can't ever know. I'd argue that Melo playing alongside Harden/CP3 would be more effective than Melo playing alongside Westbrook/PG

 

Why would it largely diminish the scope of his ability? I would imagine his playmaking ability is a factor that appealed to CP3, Harden, and Morey on top of his spacing the floor. With Melo I think our ceiling is higher.

 

Of course it does. We play differently than the Thunder and have an elite offensive coach in MDA; Harden and CP3 run the offense differently than Westbrook. Naturally, we would use Melo differently.

Sounds like the Melo haters also need to think more objectively.

 

Let me spell it out for you, Melo's abilities as a scorer exceeds what we want out of him in our system. Like CP3, he will have to make sacrifices joining our team. Think Olympics Melo VS NBA Melo. One took open three balls and if the shot wasn't there, pass the ball to the open player, and occasionally drove to the rim or posted up. The other Melo was a chucker who took a shot almost every time he touched the ball. Our system wants that first Melo. This role largely diminishes the entirety of Melo's ability and what he is or believes he is capable of. Again, with Olympics Melo, our ceiling is higher. No one has disputed this. The question however, is whether or not we would get Olympics Melo. That's the gamble and one that would be catastrophic if it fails to work out.

 

Umm no? Melo in OKC has been the same Melo we have all seen his entire career, a chucker. We could use or want to use Melo, but ultimately that depends on whether Melo is willing to make that sacrifice to his role. Think Dwight and running the PnR. Dwight could have been so great in our system, but he refused that role. The same could happen with Melo.

 

So the difference between NBA VS Olympic Melo is playing next to elite playmakers where he is being set up..... Interesting..... do we have an elite playmaker?

Melo never played next to an elite playmaker. Melo and CP3 are buds and clearly spoke in the offseason about coming here..... CP3 wanted Melo..... Interesting.

I'm not a big fan of Melo, but he would have been the ultimate stretch 4 who could create playing next to Harden and CP3.