Would Morey have kept the '90-'94 Rockets together?

Fun thread? Better question to just ask Morey. I haven't noticed him making his regular radio appearances, I assume he is busy with draft stuff. He will be on the radio soon though I would imagine, someone should present this question.

 

I would actually think morey would keep Maxwell.

1. Maxwell was acquired with a Morey-like deal. We got him from San Antonio for some cash and some enchiladas

2. Morey was the one who got us Ron Artest, a tough player

I guess for today's game, you can compare him to JR Smith, a guy who can get hot really quick and make some crazy shots.

but he was a much smarter player than JR Smith, he lead the Rockets in assists one year

 

I looked up his stats and realized the dude was taking the 2nd most shots on the team before Drexler showed up. I guess he was a closer comparison to Artest than I previously imagined. As for shooting, Artest's TS% here was 51%. Maxwell's average is around 50%. So slight advantage to Artest, but hardly a big deal.

Overall, I'd say they're more similar than different. If clutchfans time-traveled to 16 years ago, I'm guessing the red-reputation here would be "User is Vernon Maxwell's shot selection, spotty at best." :grin:

 

Olajuwon, Drexler, & Jordan? The top center and 2 best shooting guards of the era. All 3 are 2-way players. Hindsight is an amazing thing. If only someone from 2013 came back to today and advised the Rockets. I guess the next best thing is Morey.

 

Vernon's shot was money. He almost never missed from 13-17 feet. He had the best finishing moves while driving in...it was this trait that really caught my eye when he played for first team San Antonio. He scored on Olajuwon in interesting ways. He wasn't shy about taking the shot when time was running down (24 sec, end of quarter/half). This may have affected people's perception of his shot selection. His 3pt shots were erratic but he was no Rafer. Rafer seemed to miss 95% of his 3s off the dribble. Maxwell was actually quite skilled at making them...

 

Why don't you qualify what "standing pat" is for me then and clarify why changing 80% of your roster in the 90's = "standing pat" while doing so in the 2000's = "endless tinkering:

 

Maxwell was a vastly superior offensive player than Ron. He's the only rocket to score 30 in a quarter.
It's really no contest.

 

Yep

 

I agree, the only difference Freak was that we had Dream, and he was a superstar....we don't have that on this team, unless you are thinking Yao or AB is one, or could become a new one, or regain their previous form.

I think Morey has done a good job not giving up much and gaining a lot.

Tinman, Morey also jettisoned Artest after a one year rental....no problem taking that shot, but I would bet he would rather have Greene today.



DD

 

You must have horrible, horrible memories.

I don't even know where to begin on how badly off you are in your assessment of his offensive skills. Take a look here to get some perspective.

 

Yes morey loves guys with low PER's and bad plus minus stats - it's his calling card.

 

Venon's best season vs Artest's only season here.

PPG: Max 17.2 Ron 17.1
FG%: Max 41% Ron 40%
3FG%: Max 34% Ron 40%
FT%: Max 77% Ron 75%(Ron with an extra 0.5 FTA per game)
AST: Max 4.1 Ron 3.4

Note that I used Ron's past-his-prime season with the Rockets here, and compared to Vernon with his BEST SEASON IN HIS CAREER.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I just want to know what you're smoking.

 

Not to mention Morey jettisoned Artest after just one season, didn't even offer him a contract.

Speaks volumes....

Can't blame him for taking the one year shot, but the fact that he just let him go and didn't want anything to do with him, well.....

DD

 

This is a losing battle, you're just going to get bombarded with grainy youtube videos.

I loved Mad Max, but statistically he made Rafer Alston look like LeBron.

The ultimate indictment is that he pulled a Von Wafer the next year in the playoffs and the team didn't miss him a bit.

overrated.

 

If Artest's exile to the World Champion Lakers

"Speaks volumes...."

Then I guess a picture is worth a thousand words:

 

Well it says he was injured, but not sure what your point is.....that is not at all relevent to the discussion about Maxwell and Artest and whether Morey would have kept the team together.

But Morey did try to resign Von (But Von was injured), and ran away from Ron when he had his bird rights......

Just playing hard to like again, I see.

DD

 

We had Hakeem though. Looking at the current Rockets team, there is no "Hakeem". We have Yao but he's not durable enough to depend on him like we did the Dream. So knowing that, our roster has to be different than of the Clutch City mold. They ran the ball through Hakeem, these current Rockets consist of more running, ball/player movement and screens and picks. Hopefully if Yao comes back, we can run a hybrid style that lets us throw the ball down low to Yao, but still be able to run when we want.

 

Normally I would've chalked up to just tinman being tinman. But I assumed that even he should have some limits about overhyping our 90s players to absurd levels.

It's really weird how much I used to think Maxwell was fairly decent offensive player until I saw his stats. In fact, I used to think Maxwell was a better offensive player than Kenny Smith.