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Would Ginobili have been better than Harden if he left the Spurs and been #1 option?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hikanoo49, Mar 3, 2013.

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Would Ginobili have been better than Harden if he were made the #1 option earlier?

Poll closed Apr 2, 2013.

  1. Yes, Ginobili is a winner. Plays offense and defense

    96 vote(s)
    28.6%

  2. No, Harden is the man

    161 vote(s)
    47.9%

  3. Maybe

    56 vote(s)
    16.7%

  4. Not sure

    23 vote(s)
    6.8%
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  1. hikanoo49

    hikanoo49 Member

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    I think Moreys strategy of finding these guys is quite interesting especially with how great Asik is doing. Who would have thought he would be the #2 rebounder this year and only .2 rebs a game behind Superman

    As we all know, Ginobilio is simply a winner. A great offensive AND DEFENSIVE force. Multiple championships etc.

    But what if he left like Harden for more money and minutes early on in his career. Do you think he would have been a better Harden?

    Here are some Ginobili stats for you guys

    This is his 3rd year per 36 mins

    19.5 points, 5.4 rebs, 4.7 assist, 2 steals, .4 blocks, 47% fg, 80% FT, 1.6 3s AND on a LOADED San Antonio Team where he may be 3rd or 4th option AND playing amazing defense

    Hardens 4th year (current per 36 mins is)

    24.6 points, 4.5 rebs, 5.3 assists, 1.8 steals, .4 blocks, 45% FG, 85% FT, 1.9 3s being the PRIMARY scorer without having to focus on defense

    For you advanced stat guys, he has a 22.3 PER in his 3rd year and averaged 21.7 across his ENTIRE career while Harden averaged 21.1 his 3rd year and 19 overall in his career


    Thoughts?
     
    #1 hikanoo49, Mar 3, 2013
  2. ShiniKashi

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    Manu plays D.
     
    #2 ShiniKashi, Mar 3, 2013
  3. tehG l i d e

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    Too injury prone.
     
    #3 tehG l i d e, Mar 3, 2013
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    Manu had a high motor on both ends. But he's also less durable. So, he's have been better when healthy, but probably less productive overall due to inability to play extended minutes and stay healthy.
     
    #4 durvasa, Mar 3, 2013
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    Yes because manu would play defense which is 50% of the game.
     
    #5 TheRealist137, Mar 3, 2013
  6. gwatson86

    gwatson86 Contributing Member

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    Would hikanoo49 be a better poster if every thread he made wasn't trash?
     
    #6 gwatson86, Mar 3, 2013
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    jayhow92 Member

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    Would the GARM be better if you didn't make threads?
     
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  8. NotInMyHouse

    NotInMyHouse Contributing Member

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    Manu has some sausage for you.
     
    #8 NotInMyHouse, Mar 3, 2013
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    He wouldn't make it playing 37 a game as the #1. Too injury prone.
     
    #9 rolyat93, Mar 3, 2013
  10. seyton

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    Hard to say who is better, if Manu had gone to a worse team of course he could have put up 25 points a game or so. Plus he already had a ring by his 3rd year so he would have had the pedigree over Harden.

    The real problem is that in Harden's 4th year he is 23 and in Manu's 3rd year he was 27. With Manu coming over here at an older age it really makes him a hard comparison for any american player. Its just completely different circumstances altogether and trying to compare the maturity and leadership of a 27 year old to a 23 year old isn't really kosher.
     
    #10 seyton, Mar 3, 2013
  11. ILoveTheRockets

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    He could have been better than Harden for like a year or maybe 2... until his legs gave out with his age.
     
    #11 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 3, 2013
  12. TheFreak

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    No it's not. One individual can impact the game more on offense than on defense. Especially if it's a perimeter player, since their impact on the game is limited on defense.
     
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    Would ginobli have taken aaron brooks soul if he went to another team
     
    #13 apollo33, Mar 3, 2013
  14. haoafu

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    Either his efficiency(not necessarily on offense) would go down or he would be injured without adjustment. Hard to say.
     
    #14 haoafu, Mar 3, 2013
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    No due to his durability. Peakwise he was a better player than current Harden due to his defense. However, his durability was always questionable and playing in international play in the off season instead of resting didn't help.
     
    #15 felixng2012, Mar 3, 2013
  16. hikanoo49

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    interesting that you have both Manu and Harden listed in your sig as your favorite SGs

     
    #16 hikanoo49, Mar 3, 2013
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    Similar style players.
     
    #17 felixng2012, Mar 3, 2013
  18. nbafever

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    Before he signed his latest contract with SAS, he came here mid-season to visit Scola. I think he was also asking whether he could get a contract with us.

    But that was after another injury and we weren't sure how good he would be post-injury. We didn't sign him of course and SAS gave him that huge contract
     
    #18 nbafever, Mar 3, 2013
  19. ickaruto

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    Maybe and not sure are pretty much the same thing
     
    #19 ickaruto, Mar 3, 2013
  20. sirbaihu

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    This goes to the Dish
     
    #20 sirbaihu, Mar 3, 2013
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