Would any other Non-Romney GOP nominee fare better vs Obama than Mitt has?

Which one is tallest?

 

What a false meme that is... and my point was campaign organization and fundraising, not message/campaign.

But more importantly, after 12 years of posting and over 22,000 posts, how is it that you have been unwilling to contribute a single dime to this website?

You really need to answer that.

 

does the owner of this site even care?

 

Campaign organization involves messaging, organizing surrogates, etc. I guess if fundraising is the only necessary piece of the puzzle to win, you'd have a point that he has a great organization.

Unfortunately for you, I already have. You really should learn how to stay on topic, though I sort of understand why you feel the need to change it every time you find yourself unable to defend your absurd positions.

 

I think of the real contenders in the GOP nomination process the answer is none.

Of other potential contenders, I think Chris Christie would have done the best and likely could have defeated Obama. I also think Mike Huckabee would have fared better. Jeb Bush would have fared better.

The idea that Huntsman would have done well is ridiculous. He looks like a sleezeball in the debates with his squirmy smile and his forced lines and mentions of his father. He truly came across as ultra political which was disappointing. America would never elect him president. He also shied away from tough questions.

Mitt Romney was the best general election candidate of the series candidates but he's not really a good candidate. The GOP didn't have any real "good" candidates that got in the race.

I think the next GOP race will be much more interesting. I expect to see Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, John Thune, Mitch Daniels, Nikki Haley, Bob McDonnell and Bobby Jindal in the race at the very least. Much much more interesting. Might even get to see Kelly Ayotte.

Will be a fun race with quite a bit more serious candidates than this go round had and I expect the tea party factor to have worn off.

 

Huckabee is the forgotten one. Given how the primaries played out, I think Huckabee would have run away with the nomination, and he'd be exactly the type of candidate that could appeal to independents who are focused on the economy. I think he'd be the runaway favorite if he were running right now. He actually believes the "compassionate conservatism" message which I believe would play extremely well in this election - with people angry at big business but also not sold on Democratic solutions.

 

I agree. Mike Huckabee would have been a much better candidate than Mitt Romney. He does have his negatives, but I don't think his negatives (religious) play anywhere close to as bad as Romney's do. (Ultra rich, offshore accounts, "politicianny")

Edit: He also has 10x the personality and is actually someone that is easy to like.

 

Ron Paul could win. There were polls that had him doing very well against Obama.

 

On a silly note, this seems like confirmation that God wants Obama to be President. After all:

God told Bachmann to run
God told Perry to run
God told Cain to run

God told Huckabee not to run

 

If Huntsman had ran I would consider voting for him. He kind of seems reasonable which means he has no chance in the GOP primary. Christie is fat if he can't even take care of himself why would I want him taking care of the country. What is the last president that was a fat ass?

 

I disagree on the last part. The party desperately wanted an alternative to Romney. They tried every crazy person out there (Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt) but ultimately they each proved just too crazy/stupid to vote for. Huckabee would have been a viable alternative that wouldn't have been too crazy. I don't think they ultimately WANTED crazy - that was just the only option they had as far as non-Romneys available. Except for Huntsman, who just ran a miserably bad campaign and never got traction - but Huckabee would have been a favorite from the start, so that wouldn't have been an issue.

 

Sorry - I read Huckabee instead of Huntsman in your post. Ignore all of this.

 

What a stupid post.

Obama smokes. Clinton had issues.

It's flat out stupid that you wouldn't vote for him because he's overweight.

 

i don't agree with this at all. if you cannot govern your own body weight, you are not fit to govern the country, period.

 

to add to what i said: someone like Christie should be getting himself in shape, not getting fatter, if he actually has presidential aspirations. if he's not even willing/able to try to get himself in shape, i don't want him as president. the job of president is a demanding one...

 

But if you can't govern your addictions and instead of getting fat you pump cancer into your lungs you are fit to govern the country? Or you can't keep yourself from chasing skirts?

 

#1 I don't care if someone likes to smoke or not.

#2 I don't care if someone cheats on his wife or not. that's between them.

#3 like it or not, being overweight says something about you. while it might be unfair, it implies that you are undisciplined.

 

So...being overweight says you are undisciplined, but being addicted to cigarettes which are proven to kill doesn't and cheating on your spouse in the oval office also doesn't show a lack of discipline.

I get it. The only people who aren't disciplined in this world are fat people because being fat is ugly and if you are ok with being ugly then you suck.

 

I have to disagree. President Obama would beat Huckabee like a drum. Huckabee is a bass playing, chubby, genial sounding guy, but he's an Christian extremist. I wouldn't vote for him in a million years. Huckabee tried hard to be as corrupt as Rick Perry while he was governor (tried, but failed), handing out state posts to those who gave him gifts (in one year, he received nearly double his salary as governor... in gifts). Huckabee was "admonished" by the state ethics commission 5 times in 14 years because of his greed. Coincidentally, Huckabee ordered 4 servers and 83 computers destroyed before leaving office. Golly, I wonder why?

And another example of his extremism? Here's a quote from 1992:

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague.
It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents.

In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified. An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor (,) Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801659.html

So aside from being an extremist, and more than a bit corrupt and crazy, Huckabee is a swell guy. Hey, he comes across well on the talk shows. There's a lot more, but I get tired simply thinking about the fellow.

http://www.computerworlduk.com/news...-facing-complaint-over-destroyed-hard-drives/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15853756/#.UE96Mmt5mSM

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7401.html

 

No one running for the current Republican party could win. The party's values have become too extreme, and even the most moderate Republican would feel pressured to conform to those extreme values if he ran for president.

The schism comes from the need to adopt extreme values to appeal to the party faithful, and the fact that those extreme values alienate everyone else. The Republicans are keeping the party faithful, and losing everyone else, everywhere. The candidate is stuck in the unenviable position of convincing his party loyalists that he holds those extreme views, while trying to convince the rest of America that he's a moderate.