Any knee surgery, minor operation, is sensative and takes time to heel. It is a joint. Not only is it a joint, but its a joint that takes more pressure than any joint on your body, especially in basketball. Running, jumping, cutting, falling hard etc. a knee injury isnt anything you can push through, or just bite the bullet, you physically cannot do certain things when you have a knee injury.
you are right. hence the need for proper rehab of a knee. it might be the worst joint to rehab, and the joint that most requires the muscles around it be brought back up to par before a person engages in any intense physical activity. i dont think showing up to play NBA basketball overweight, out of shape, and not having done rehab on his knee was the right move on his part.
being overweight and out of shape is going to happen, you aren't able to do cardio etc. with a knee that your rehabing... people think rehabing is an intense workout that makes the knee strong at a rapid pace- rehab is a lot of exercises of 20 reps with maybe a five pound weight attatched to your angle, doing leg raises, or being on the stairmaster for a limited amount of time with a slow pace, or doing yoga like exercises in the pool...then gradually moving into a normal workout routine and that is how you get overweight, on my first ACL tear, i gained 12 pounds (and it wasnt muscle) due to not being able to workout or exercise, and its not like i was hurt and i didn't do anything, I was a very active athlete at the time and was very committed to my rehab. This might not be relative due to tracy didnt have an acl tear, but i had a strained meniscus (sp), that took me 5 weeks to rehab, and I gained weight (don't know how much) and was very out of shape, not because I was lazy, just because I wasn't able to do workouts that allowed me to be in shape etc. So it is understood why he was out of shape- my question is: Where do you get this information that he didn't rehab? I am not flaming you or anything, I am just curious.
You are a ****ing idiot and should be banned from this board forever. What the hell is wrong with you? It's one thing to dislike a professional athlete, even avidly. It's another thing all together to wish them ill will in what could possibly be a career ending procedure. Your a piece of garbage.
There's a Rockets insider who posts around here. One of the things he leaked was that supposedly Battier despises McGrady for slacking on his rehab.
kind of sounds like a he said she said deal... and even if it was true, first off: I don't think Battier would spread that to other people, he seems like the kind of guy who would confront tracy about that personally and most importantly, how would battier know what T Mac was doing? Yes they were both injured, but even where I rehabed at one of my best friends was there, and I almost never saw him, does it mean he didn't do his? What I think the case was is the following: T Mac was exhausted at the end of last season, had the knee problem, but didn't go through all the trouble to find out what exactly was wrong. It was more severe than he thought, and team doctors thought, so the scope and the rehab wasn't enough. Perhaps he knew how serious it was, but didn't want to have microfracture surgery because that would keep him out a majority of the season, especially with how recently yao is been getting the injury bug, and the arrival of Ron, he felt like he only had a limited number of opportunities to advance in the playoffs. So I think he kind of, played god if you wanna say, and thought he was bigger than something that he wasn't, and played through the injury (after doing rehab etc.) but needed the microfracture surgery that was forgone. He then struggles, and here we are now. (if he had gotten it over the summer nad missed a majority of this season, I am sure everyone on this board would be irate... so don't flame him for trying to play through it, because deep down thats what you all beg for)
he was out of shape before last season too, without an injury to use as an excuse. he just is not diligent about his offseason training. i know this because i ask people. and yes, you are right about this offseason, it would be understandable if he had rehabbed the knee and yet was out of shape. but his leg was still atrophied when he got to camp. he had no strength in the joint. and he was out of shape. so basically he had the surgery, did nothing to rebuild the muscles and stabilize the joint, and then tried to play on it. i think when you have a player that is not committed to the maintenance of his body in the long run, you will start to see the kinds of breakdowns that we are seeing with him. problems like he has are not isolated, they are systematic, meaning that his failure to properly care for his body is resulting in the weak links in the chain breaking one after another. i have no doubt that his use of a questionable personal trainer as opposed to the rockets dedicated staff is a contributing factor.
so, at the risk of rehashing old arguments - many people close to the team ahve suggested that tracy is extremely unpopular with the other players and with the coaching/training staff because of his poor work ethic and lack of commitment to the success of the team. essentially saying that everyone else has to work, but tracy gets special treatment, and does not choose to do the work on his own, or work on his game, or do the drills, or practice hard. pretty much to sum it up, multiple sources close to the team have suggested that 1) nobody likes tracy, 2) nobody likes playing with tracy, and 3) nobody respects tracy anymore.
No doubt, not to mention the guy doesn't even warm up before games. Tracy has to grow up and start taking care of his money maker.....or else it is gonna stop making him money. DD
Supposedly Battier and T-Mac rehabbed at the same facility at the same time. I don't remember the details but what surprised me was that it wasn't some private Rockets training facility, it was a public gym. Also, who's saying that Battier told anybody? It may just be that his disdain for McGrady is pretty obvious.
This thread is garbage. To wish someone harm is just wrong plain and simple. I cannot imagine the uproar a thread like this would cause if it was about Yao. Last season, when Yao went down ( again ) everyone on this board acted as if the sky had fallen. People were so depressed, it was disgusting. You would've though his career was over. Now with T-Mac facing season ending surgery, people are wishing bad upon him? I wish Tmac a speedy recovery and hope Alexander gives him an extension.
While I wouldn't have used the same language, I completely agree. Worst wishes? Did he kill your mother? Did he do your girlfriend? What did he do to you personally that you wish only the worst for him? What was that? He's a basketball player that you've never had any contact with in your life other than being at a game or watching it on tv? Interesting. I'm seriously concerned about the mental health of a lot of our posters these days.
Yao works hard and gives his all to the team, his teammates, and for his country. his injury happened because he cares too much and works too hard. Tracy's situation is the opposite of everything I just wrote. Thats why he gets threads like this, deserved or not. Ok I have spent enough time writing today. Hopefully tomorrow brings news of a trade to cheer us all up. get it done morey!
I don't hope Tracy McGrady gets in a car accident or anything. The thread title was a reference to its parallel thread and raison d'etre, the "Best Wishes for Tracy" thread. That being said, if Tracy makes his way back to the NBA on another team (since his possibility for coming back to the Rockets remains unlikely), you won't see me being respectful about my hopes for how his team performs. Right now he's at the level of Carlos Boozer to me, maybe even Scottie Pippen for the way his parting with the Rockets is looking thus far. Hey, who would be able to dispute the Tracy Quitten moniker at this point! Let's say he works his butt off after surgery, comes back to the Rox midseason next year, and makes a positive contribution to our team. That looks extremely unlikely at this point, but IF that happens, I will support him once again no matter what the fate of our team is (yes, even if we lose in the first round again). I am a Rocket fan first and foremost; I grew up with them, and I'm not tied down to any one player (well, maybe Clyde...). And it pisses me off greatly when a Rocket backstabs his team as it looks like T-Mac has done.
If Tracy can't even come back from minor arthroscopic knee surgery, he won't come back from microfracture surgery. you can't teach an old dog new tricks...in this case, you can't teach a lazy person hard work.
yay my first post dont wish bad things on people. karma is a b****h. well tracy mcgrady was my favorite player but this season changed abosutely everything. i tried to defend him as much as possible but i have run out of reasons why he doesnt suck. hopefully next season he can do something to fix the mess he has made..
I don't wish the guy harm because he's still a human being but I am so so soooooo pissed that I bought a pair of his shoes a couple years ago. I want to burn them but they were so expensive I can't bring myself to do it! Aaaagh damn you Tracy. And you used to be my favorite.
