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World War III

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by droxford, Jul 29, 2024.

  1. basso

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    my feed rn.
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    US foreign policy in the Middle East is horrendous and has been for 80 years.
     
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    The thing nobody really talks about is the complete failure of the UN to be this diplomatic channel to avoid the needs for military interventions primarily in the milddle east or the regions. Because of the other big players Russia and China corrupting the system there’s now no real diplomatic authority to resolve anything.

    What’s the saying about how when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail? That’s the problem right now imo.

    There is little else the US can do to resolve anything and if the US isn’t involved in trying to resolve a dispute (ex: Israel colonizing West Bank and Hamas shooting rockets into Israel) then involved parties will just be more extreme and violent.

    So yes I do believe the US under Biden and the past couple presidencies has tried to help resolve issues because they don’t want Russia or China resolving them, there is no diplomatic carrot anymore. Only the stick. Only way diplomacy works is if you have a united world economic lever to pull to reward good cooperative behavior. That just doesn’t exist at the moment and probably wont for awhile.

    I’m willing to back away from being team America world police if we can but people need to realize that comes with a cost. Mainly high gas prices which leads to everything costing more and cost of living looking more like a European country than the US.
     
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    wouldn't be the first time.
     
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    The UN as a coalition has no real power and never has. No major country, the US, Russia, PRC France or Britain will ever willingly lend their power to UN command.

    As for the Middle East yes it’s been and remains a shyte show. Biden’s been trying to walk a very fine line regarding Israel, Iran, the Houthis and etc, of standing up for US interests which include supporting Israel and not trying to get the US dragged into an all out war again in the region. I don’t know how well Harris can continue that and have no faith at all on Trump.

    If Trump wins he’s likely going to not just allow but encourage Netanyahu to press further attacks into Lebanon and Iran. We will be drawn into a conflict as Hezbollah and other Iranian groups will start all out attacks on US interests and facilities.
     
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    Finna move my fam to Canada. Unless it’s getting attacked. Mexico?
     
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    Great.
     
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    I'm telling you, dude, New Zealand is where it's at.
     
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    Seriously, America sucks right now, it is run by racists, pedophiles and drunks - and the 31% that support the cruelty are ignorant and don't know any better, we are literally a dumbass nation.

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    you had my curiosity, now you have my attention.

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    LOL

    What would you expect them to say while their existence depends largely on the US?
     
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    According to well-placed sources who have seen the classified DIA assessment of the bomb damage assessment (BDA) after the US military strikes last weekend, DIA assesses that the Iran nuclear program could be back on line in a matters of “months” from 1-2 months on the low end to less than a year on the high end. This is a preliminary intelligence assessment and is deemed "low confidence," in intelligence parlance. It is based, I am told, on satellite images and SIGINT obtained since the strikes. The focus of the report is on the BDA at Fordow. The US B2 MOP bunker buster bombs were able to cave the entrances to the facility, which is built 300 feet underground. “The entrances are caved in.” Some infrastructure was destroyed, according to the assessment, but the overall operations were not destroyed and they could “dig out” and rebuild/ repair the power to the facility that powered the centrifuges. According to the preliminary DIA intelligence assessment: an unknown amount of the highly enriched uranium (the 440 kg that was enriched to 60 percent) was moved out of the Fordow facility. One possibility, according to the DIA assessment, is that it was moved to the “3rd site” that the Iranians told the IAEA about ahead of the strikes – a secret site. DIA is one of 18 US intelligence agencies. It focuses on military intelligence. Again this is a preliminary intelligence assessment so in intelligence terms it is deemed “low confidence.”
     

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