realistically the goal is to make playoffs/play in. We aren't winning it all with any star coming here, there's too many variables. The goal is just to give our youngsters an actual playmaker so they can have some sort of success.
It’s not often we’re on the same page these days. You nailed this. There’s no, NO benefit to these kids bringing in Harden. And anyone thinking he could bring a championship here is simply delusional. He couldn’t do it with Paul, KD, Kyrie, Embiid. It’s pointless. He’s a shell of the guy who played here. We’ve read this book, let’s move on.
This right here!!! Some still aren’t over Harden and want him back. Me personally, I don’t ever wanna see him in a rockets jersey again. He ****ed us over after we defended him for years!! It’s like wanting your spouse back after they cheated and left you for someone else. No thanks!
Championship??? LOL How about we get relevant first? Harden can setup the table for the kids so they can grow faster. You’re delusional if you think ANYBODY can bring us a championship.
Yes, bringing in one of the best floor generals in the game definitely will not help our young players who run around like headless chickens. Not at all.
Please don’t bring that ball hog back. Remember he gave up on us a FEW TIMES said weren’t good enough. We have a young team and we are building for the future NOT THE PASS.
All these dummies refusing the greatness of harden playmaking ability something we sorely need. A bunch of these posters aren't even active on the game thread to watch how **** we look with kpj running our offense. While some are just kpj stans scared that harden will absolutely take the pg position from the head honcho Say no to harden but doesn't provide any viable alternatives. No to kpj as pg. We aren't winning anything, but having a great playmaker in harden will do wonders for our youngsters. Running it back with kpj is just stupid. Get over your butt hurt feeling, harden is good for the rookies, long term development if he's willing.
Let’s stay a bottom feeder team for the foreseeable future and not bring back the best playmaker outside of Jokic back .. You know because stars are beating the door down to join the Rockets
Exactly! We had moments this season where it looked like We were starting to gell but bad pg play and no structure did their thing, so We ended up tanking one last time. But I think that with a star playmaker this team, without any other changes, would go up a couple of levels in play. We let KPJ and Silas try to figure it out while finishing the tank, but this offseason We're definitely upgrading the PG, be it Harden or someone else. Also, whichever coach We get is going to bring sorely needed structure and accountability. The Rocket's news stream is filled with good/great coaches, and the players that are being mentioned are star level, so the feeling is We will be a much better team next season. It can't all be baseless smoke, and Harden IMO is a real possibility. The only way I see him not returning to us is if We get the 2nd pick, because there's no way a lineup of Scoot/JG/Harden could work early, if ever. In every other scenario, I can see Harden returning and lifting this team to the play in tier, or maybe even to a first round appearance next season. For that to happen, he needs to accept the role of a mentor and leader of this young team, which I think he will, because he likes it here and he wouldn't have as much pressure as he had in BKN/PHI. Play pretty basketball, set up the youngsters and see where it goes.
You could draft a PG. Scoot Henderson, Cason Wallace, Anthony Black and trade for a vet to start especially if it's the latter 2 players. Then what happens?? Glad you asked... You are not paying Harden a billion dollars as he gets worse every season. He would be averaging 13 points 6 assists in a few years playing 50 games. It is in the realm of possibility to improve next season without hindering seasons after that with a giant contract on a player THAT WILL GET WORSE every season starting with the next one.
Also I don't think you are a "dummy" for wanting Harden to come back either. I do not think you are even acknowledging though the risk in a 3rd or 4th season when he will be very old while even this season is having an extremely difficult time driving to the basket and finishing.
yeah harden would be a terrible influence! he only improved his game steadily over the past 10 years and is one of the only players in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and assists! He was only in the MVP top 3 voting 4 times... Talk about a terrible work ethic! Would be so harmful to see that rub off on the youth. Surely he has no advice on how to overcome adversity or talk about challenges that faced him as the face of the franchise.
Th This is the best post of the forum. Don’t you people understand that Harden will be 34 years old and hasn’t exactly taken care of his body off the court. As he ages more and more his bowling ball style of play will diminish along with his three point shot and defense. You DO NOT GIVE 50 million dollars a year and a multi year contract to a player in major decline. This would be another Wall situation in which we as fans suffer with an untradeable expensive asset on the wrong side of his career. Understand the need for a point guard but there are a number of smarter ways to accomplish that goal without hurting the future of the franchise.
Th This is the best post of the forum. Don’t you people understand that Harden will be 34 years old and hasn’t exactly taken care of his body off the court. As he ages more and more his bowling ball style of play will diminish along with his three point shot and defense. You DO NOT GIVE 50 million dollars a year and a multi year contract to a player in major decline. This would be another Wall situation in which we as fans suffer with an untradeable expensive asset on the wrong side of his career. Understand the need for a point guard but there are a number of smarter ways to accomplish that goal without hurting the future of the franchise.
It really depends on the length of the contract. 3 years, or 2 years with a team option at 50m, sounds good. We want him for the way he distributes the basketball and to help our youngsters to progress by being tutored in where to be on the court to receive and finish on his and Sengun’s extraordinary abilities to distribute. His 3 pt shooting will be streaky like it always has been. Harden, Green, KPJ would be a phenomenal guard rotation and with the addition of the appropriate other vets would immediately get us in the playoff picture. It will let our core youngsters progress at a much faster pace than with another rookie playmaker and get a taste of games that matter.
That’s a rosey picture view. He is not a good off court influence for KPJ and Green. McGrady and others sucked at age 31-32….why pay 50 million to a 34 year old declining player. Being smart as a team and not dumb is the key to a proper rebuild.
It is not up to Harden or any other play to influence player’s off-court behavior. Green has already demonstrated that he is dedicated and persistent in his efforts to become better. KPJ is responsible for KPJ. If Nook is correct he refuses the advice of his coaching staff and was coddled by the worst coach in NBA history.
Well, with Embiid out, we're going to get to see just what Harden has left in the tank now that he doesn't have anyone to carry him. Should make the conversation about wasting a ton of money on him in the offseason more interesting and informed.
