I'm not sure that is the case when you would still have Jabari and someone like Scoot or Victor. I don't have a problem with Kawhi as a contract dump given his injuries and lack of free agents. I would like guys who have been coached by Ime already....
I don't hate Green. I just think as a one-way player he has lower ceiling. I don't think Green gets you better than a #10-15 pick in trade so it's not like he's Anthony Edwards yet.
The calculation with Kawhi is if you have Victor, Jabari, Eason, and Martin; you don't need him playing 40 minutes. He's there for culture and buy in to to Ime... What else you spending the money on? 35 million for Middleton?
Don't hurt your head bro, these few posters you're dealing with are just on loop saying they haven't heard anything good while they have their fingers in their ears. We've told them a million times all the alternatives are better than a max Harden and no we won't do nothing or run it back. They know exactly what we mean and they have never made a tactical or strategic argument. It's just a mythologically important thing to them that has no basis in reality like: - We need to get into important games faster. >> who the F cares about this minuscule arbitrary goal? - There's no other alternative that you can PROVE will join >> as though it's proven Harden would join. - Harden will TEACH YOUNG PLAYERS THINGS >>> Since when? Who on earth sees Harden as a mentor? - We need a floor general >> there are 30 starting calibre ones and they believe 29 are impossible to acquire. They're just insecure man and they are willing to spend $43m per season to plug that insecurity for a season till it comes back. They deep down truly believe he's the only path. I know it seems insane to us, but it helps to remind yourself that they ACTUALLY believe it and are not acting or trolling. Like they really think we're f'ed if we don't get 34 year old James Harden at any cost. So that's why they act out and make snarky comments, they feel like things are a hair away from uselessness or chaos. When you think about it that way, their posting patterns become logical.
Like you have to have some absurd level of lacking self awareness to create a thread titled "the comprehensive Jalen Green sucks thread" and spend hours and hours of your life defending that premise of the title and later say "I don't hate Jalen Green"
NBA GMs don't see trade value of a 20 year old solely through the lense of what the produced as a 20 year old. Also are you confusing ceiling with floor? You can argue that Green has a low floor but a high ceiling.
Wait, now Jalen is 20 again? LOL you are REALLY bad when it comes to accurately stating the ages of players....is it deliberate?
LOL... A lot of projection here by emotional Harden naysayers. Let's play along then... People who actually care about the Rockets and our younger talent care about getting them playoffs experience as early and often as possible. That's who the F cares. Harden does that. FVV does not do that. Austin Reeves does not do that. Whatever pu pu platter of veterans y'all keep implying does not do that. Harden is a superstar that is at least willing to consider joining the Rockets. Who else have you heard is willing to join a team that just got done tanking? That may change if we get Wemby or Scoot, but until then who else have you heard? Maxey on the Sixers and both Green and KPJ on our own team. Guess you also missed how the two among other Rockets young players trained with Harden at various points? OK, so list which ones we are capable of getting and then ask yourself how many are better than Harden? We have Jokic, Curry, and CP3 from that list of 29. Which ones can we realistically acquire? Let's talk about reality now... We are not in control of our picks until 2027 meaning our ability to effectively tank has ended after our draft this year Signing Harden to a 4 year max does not prevent us from being able to retain any of Green, Bari, Sengun, or Tari Playmaking is obviously our biggest area of need and one of the best at it will become available after this season Moving on to other "alternatives" that you and others discussed... Do nothing - This is flat out loser talk and a dead end considering our pick situation. Throw star money at FVV - Sorry, but this is just so much dumber than signing Harden that it ties with "Do nothing" Sign a pu pu platter of veteran role players to support our young "core" - Equally dumb considering none of the players have shown they are stars yet. We would be punting the next 3 seasons and hoping our talent figure it out. Again, loser talk. Take a chance on cheaper players that could be stars, like Austin Reeves or Tyus Jones or Cam - This one is actually viable, but we would be effectively punting playoff hopes until the rest of the talent catches up, if they do.
Mary-oh Elie has been going at Harden pretty hard on Twitter, first he drops the "some players are not meant for this time of year" Tweet when Harden was quitting AGAIN, now he drops "Boy these players these days getting coaches FIRED left and right. Must hold some of these players accountable too. Just saying." right as the news that coach killer Harden did his thing again. I guess he's an "emotional Harden naysayer" as well as being a 3 time champion.
The Harden only fans who keep bringing up stats that fail to address why a Harden led offense consistently underperforms when it matters? Harden's puts up Wilt level "stats" his last two years as a Rocket but none of y'all had the foresight to realize it was going to fall apart in the playoffs.
You are 100% correct. I need to keep that in mind bro. It's just constant asinine statement after another when it comes to James Harden on this board. They really truly believe that Harden is the only answer for us. It was so funny when Harden got traded to the Nets and you had guys in the NBA dish actually believing that Harden was better than KD LOL. It then became scary when those same folks where saying that Harden was the best player in the NBA. Like you said, you gotta know what you're dealing with here. The Harden worship on this site is REAL.
If the goal of bringing Harden here is to recreate the Harden era Rockets where we will rely on him being the alpha in the playoffs when this team of youngsters is ready to contend then it's a losing proposition. But Harden if he comes here wouldn't be coming here for those reasons so his playoff disappearance acts in elimination games is irrelevant.
So he is all of a sudden going to play differently when he has only been playing Harden ball for the past decade? Where is there any evidence to suggest that?
Harden is still a superstar? Speaking of emotions and folks still living in the past...... As for the rest....
Only idiots and casuals don't think he is. His production this season keeps him firmly in superstar territory.
Smart people realize stuff happened in Brooklyn that were well outside Harden's control. They also recognize that the Sixers scored less than 90 AS A TEAM in 3 of 7 games while Harden single handily won 2 to make the series competitive. This year's Celtics will probably go on and win the championship.
