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[WOJ] Anthony Davis has requested trade

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by lionaire, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. Jump Ship

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    Is davis really set on lebron? Guess rich paul has more pull than i thought. This is bad for the pelicans. Teams wont pay as much for a rental.
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/25887319/six-big-anthony-davis-trades-see

    What should the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers offer in an Anthony Davis trade? Which surprise teams should make big bids for the All-NBA superstar?

    Davis requested a trade from the New Orleans Pelicans this week. But there are plenty of complications preventing an immediate deal to the Lakers or Celtics, according to a report by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski and Zach Lowe.

    Our experts share their best AD moves heading into the 2019 NBA trade deadline, featuring multiple first-round picks and young players with star potential.

    Boston Celtics

    Celtics get: Anthony Davis
    Pelicans get: Jayson Tatum, Aron Baynes, Jaylen Brown, Guerschon Yabusele, Semi Ojeleye

    Kevin Pelton: As you've surely heard by now, the Celtics can't make a deal for Davis before the deadline unless they include Kyrie Irving because both players are signed to designated rookie extensions, and teams are allowed only one such player acquired via trade. So consider this a preview of what Boston might offer this summer. (By then, the Celtics wouldn't need to include Semi Ojeleye to match salaries, though Baynes would need to pick up his player option for this version to work.)

    The Celtics should offer Tatum only if they're confident they can re-sign Davis in the summer of 2020. While both Tatum and Brown are a lot to surrender in return, Boston would potentially still have a strong starting five of Irving, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Davis and Al Horford, with the ability to re-sign free agents Marcus Morris and Terry Rozier to fill out the bench.

    Meanwhile, New Orleans probably isn't getting a better offer for Davis, even if the Celtics are unwilling to include the best of their draft picks. Tatum and Brown would replenish the Pelicans' thin wing rotation and give them a chance to compete now with more upside ahead as they develop.

    Los Angeles Lakers

    Lakers get: Anthony Davis, Cheick Diallo, Tim Frazier and Darius Miller
    Pelicans get: Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Jonathon Simmons, Orlando's 2019 first-round pick (top-10 protected*) and the Lakers' unprotected first-round picks in 2023 and 2025
    Magic get: Lonzo Ball

    *If the first is not conveyed in 2019, Orlando will send a 2020 first-round pick (protected Nos. 1-10). The pick will turn into a 2023 and 2025 second-round pick if not conveyed.

    Bobby Marks: What would it take for New Orleans GM Dell Demps to engage with the Lakers on an Anthony Davis trade?

    How about multiple first-round picks and young prospects in Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma? The Pelicans would also receive Jonathon Simmons to shore up their depth at small forward.

    Because there would be little value in the Lakers' 2019 and 2021 first-round picks with Davis and LeBron James paired together, New Orleans would receive draft compensation in later years. There is no guarantee that Los Angeles would be a championship team four years from now. The Pelicans would also get an extra protected first by sending Ball to the Orlando Magic. The three controllable contracts would put the Pelicans' cap ledger in order, giving New Orleans $27 million in room for 2019 and financial flexibility in the future.

    The Magic have been in search of a point guard for the future. With limited flexibility this summer to add one in free agency and a draft short on PGs (outside of Ja Morant), acquiring Ball is their best option.

    This price to acquire Davis is steep for the Lakers, as it should be. But since there is no sense of urgency for New Orleans to move Davis before the deadline -- and knowing that Boston is waiting to join the Davis sweepstakes this summer -- Los Angeles will need to be aggressive with its offer.

    The downside to a Davis deal now is that it would eliminate the Lakers' ability to add a third max player this summer. With Davis on the roster, the Lakers would have $24.8 million in space this summer, $8 million short of a max slot. The most room Los Angeles could create is $30.6 million, and that would take trading every remaining player on the roster except James and Davis.

    If there is no deal at the deadline, Los Angeles would have the same package of players and draft picks to offer in the summer, except for Caldwell-Pope.

    Chicago Bulls

    Bulls get: Anthony Davis
    Pelicans get: Lauri Markkanen, Wendell Carter Jr., Robin Lopez and Chicago's unprotected 2019 first-round draft pick

    Kevin Arnovitz: ESPN's Brian Windhorst's best intelligence says Davis has little interest in his hometown as a destination. Yet the Bulls could gamble on their standing as a prominent franchise in a large market, as well as the massive cap space they'll hold this summer to attract superstars to play alongside Davis, to entice him to remain in Chicago. If Davis makes it clear that he has no interest in setting up shop in Chicago long-term, then the Bulls are in position to collect on Boston's best offer in early July or at some point before the 2020 trade deadline.

    Although the Bulls' offer might not be as appealing to the Pelicans as whatever Danny Ainge will put together this summer, New Orleans would have one of the NBA's most promising young frontcourts and decent probability of landing a top-five pick (admittedly, the presence of Davis on the Bulls likely would mean they win more games than the Pelicans would like). Lopez can be spun off, be bought out or play out the season on his expiring contract.

    Philadelphia 76ers

    76ers get: Anthony Davis
    Pelicans get: Joel Embiid, Philadelphia's 2020 first-round pick

    Jeremias Engelmann: With the NBA flattening the lottery odds starting this season, tanking has become a worse strategy. As such, I'd much rather see New Orleans try to stay competitive and not go into a full rebuild.

    With Embiid, New Orleans would get back a slightly less effective but also slightly younger version of Davis. The two have almost identical shooting and per-36-minute production numbers, except when it comes to turnovers -- an area in which Embiid struggles.

    By flipping Embiid (real plus-minus of plus-4.4) for Davis (plus-6.7), Philadelphia would get only somewhat better, but every tiny edge is important in the struggle for Eastern Conference superiority. Furthermore, this deal has the added benefit of prohibiting the Celtics from dealing for Davis in the summer, which would most certainly present a significant roadblock for the 76ers' NBA Finals aspirations during the majority of Embiid's prime.
     
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    Phoenix Suns

    Suns get: Anthony Davis
    Pelicans get: Deandre Ayton, Josh Jackson, Mikal Bridges, Troy Daniels, Richaun Holmes and the Bucks' protected 2019 first-round pick

    André Snellings: Ayton is likely the best individual building block the Pelicans could hope to receive in a package for Davis. The reigning No. 1 overall pick is living up to expectations and has the size and skill to develop into a superstar if he continues to improve on defense. Bridges and Jackson are both long, athletic wings with high upside. All three are exciting young players on rookie deals who could be foundation pieces for the future.

    With Jrue Holiday under contract long-term, draft assets and the potential of holding on to promising big men Julius Randle, Jahlil Okafor and/or Nikola Mirotic, this trade would let the Pelicans rebuild quickly without having to fall to rock bottom.

    For the Suns, Davis would pair with Devin Booker to give them one of the most exciting young two-man foundations in the league. The Suns also have a lot of cap space this offseason, enough to potentially bring in a third star to make a run at contention next season. T.J. Warren and Kelly Oubre are solid young contributors already in place, and the Suns would retain their high lottery pick in this draft as well.

    Toronto Raptors

    Raptors get: Anthony Davis, Darius Miller, Tim Frazier and Cheick Diallo
    Pelicans get: Pascal Siakam, Delon Wright, CJ Miles, Jonas Valanciunas and a 2021 first-round pick (protected Nos. 1-10*)

    *If the first is not conveyed, Toronto will send a 2022 first-round pick (protected Nos. 1-10). The pick will turn into 2023 and 2025 second-round picks if not conveyed.

    Bobby Marks: Raptors GM Masai Ujiri proved last summer with the Kawhi Leonard trade that he is not afraid to take a chance. With the addition of Davis, the Raptors would be pushing nearly all of their chips in, hoping not only that Leonard commits this summer but also that Davis does the following year. If Leonard walks in the offseason, Toronto still has Davis to use in a trade to replenish the assets lost in both deals. Even on an expiring contract, Davis will have significant trade value.

    In the short term, Toronto would be not only the favorite to come out of the East but also a team that could challenge the Golden State Warriors for an NBA championship.

    Is this package enough to get Toronto a seat at the table when it involves a potential Davis trade? Siakam is on the verge of becoming an All-Star. Although Wright becomes a restricted free agent this summer, he gives New Orleans the option of a partner next to Jrue Holiday or an insurance policy if the point guard is moved in a future deal. Miles and Valanciunas have player options for 2019-20, giving the Pelicans solid contributors if they opt in and more than $41 million to rebuild the roster if they opt out.

    New York Knicks

    Update (Jan. 31): The Knicks have traded Porzingis to the Mavericks, according to a report by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

    Knicks get: Anthony Davis, Wesley Johnson, Cheick Diallo, Ian Clark
    Pelicans get: Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Kristaps Porzingis, Luke Kornet and a 2019 first-round pick (protected No. 1 overall)

    Kevin Pelton: The Knicks' deal is the one we ended up making in the Dunc'd On Basketball NBA Podcast mock trade deadline, with the Pelicans getting New York's 2019 first-round pick unless it's No. 1 overall. (In that case, New Orleans would get two future first-rounders.) The Knicks can offer both a quality young player in Porzingis and a prime draft pick -- one that ESPN's Basketball Power Index currently projects to have a 38 percent chance of being in the top three, though Davis' addition would hurt those odds if he were to play this season.

    From New York's standpoint, clearing the salaries of Hardaway and Lee off the 2019-20 books would give the Knicks up to $57 million in cap space this summer -- more than enough to sign a max free agent (say, Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving).

    I'm not sure the Pelicans should accept an offer that doesn't give them a chance to land the No. 1 overall pick, but some version of this deal could work before the deadline. It will be more difficult to execute this summer, when Porzingis will be a restricted free agent and would have to agree to a sign-and-trade. If he's unwilling, New York might not have enough ammo to deal for Davis without winning the lottery.
     
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    Lol at Embiid and 1st for Davis
     
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    How is what AD is doing different from Shaq going to LA as far as wanting to play with another great player? All this talk about a different mentality in this era is way overblown, even Barkley wanted to play with Dream & Drexler to win. Shaq and Barkley would've done the same as KD & AD if they had the power.

    Tampering / collusion and all that, sure. A player coming out to the media saying all I want is this team and I won't play for any other team, yes that is not like before. The attitude of I want to play for that team is nothing new though.
     
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    Trying to get Lakers to jump on this now I guess
     
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    GET THIS EGGBALL CRAP OUT OF HERE!
    ;)

     
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    I would trade him or any other stars who do this **** to China for the remainder of their contract and just tank
     
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    Houston sends Pelicans 2021 and 2023 1sts. #randomness #comeAtmebro

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    Anthony Davis wants to go somewhere with a history of winning. He's tired of losing and wants to be part of a franchise that has proven it can get to the playoffs consistently.

    Like where?

    The Lakers or the Knicks. Duh.

    LOL

    Just be real about it, nobody falls for this crap. You want to play in one of the two biggest markets so you get a better shoe deal. SMH at this generation of players.
     
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    Pelicans are getting screwed.
     
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    Open only if you love random trade ideas and hypotheticals

    Demps: We'll want Knox, Mitchell Robinson, your 2019 1st, and those 2 Dallas 1st Rounders you got.
    Perry: You got it.
    Demps: Then we'll want Dennis Smith in a separate transaction because CBA amirite?
    Perry: That's fine too. You'll end up with Knox, Robinson, Smith, 3 1sts for AD...we'll have to include Kanter for salary purposes
    Demps: That's cool. It's an expiring contract. Oh by the way, we have Daryl Morey on threeway
    Perry: Wait what-
    Morey: We want to send Nene to New York.
    Perry: Okay...but-
    Demps: Work with us Perry. Go ahead Daryl.
    Morey: Thanks, Dell. Right we'll send you Nene. His contract is fairly small so it shouldn't be an issue. You won't need to send us anything, Scott. We'll then send Eric Gordon and Chriss to Washington and Dell will also send Mirotic to Ernie.
    Grunfeld: Hey guys!
    Perry: What the hell is--
    Demps: Scott, don't worry. We'll get this sorted out. You will end up with AD and Nene. I will end up with the players and picks we agreed to before. Daryl's going to send another 1st my way and he'll send 2 1sts to Ernie so it's all good.

    Pelicans end up with:
    DSJ
    Knox
    M. Robinson
    Kanter
    NYK 2019 1st Rounder
    Dallas 2021/2023 1sts or 2023/2025 1sts
    Houston 2019 1st

    Knicks ends up with:
    AD
    Nene

    Rockets ends up with:
    Beal

    Washington ends up with:
    Eric Gordon
    Mirotic
    Chriss
    Houston 2021 and 2023 1sts


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    Someone has to get screwed in the end right? lol
     
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    Wny noone wants the Celtics?
    Great coach, good GM, owner, arena, fans, culture and a lot of media attention.

    Do you think that the players think that Hayward is done and an albatross? Or they have soured on how Ainge treats everyone as expendable asset?
     
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    the lebron brainwash is real. he probably got to AD a long time ago with an idea with and vision with LA
     
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    Alvin Gentry addressing the media first. Says playing AD if healthy isn’t decided as of yet.

    Alvin Gentry says trade deadline won’t dictate how the Pels hold players out re: Elfrid, Niko, Julius or E’Twaun.

    Gentry said AD shot and did player development work at practice on Friday morning.

    Anthony Davis on why he wants to be traded: “it’s my time. I feel like I gave this city all I could.”

    Anthony Davis said he or his representation did not give anyone a preferred destination.

    Anthony Davis said his intention is to still play this season when he’s healthy.

    Anthony Davis says someone called a reporter and that reporter called Rich about it. “We never wanted it go public.”

    The Anthony Davis “it’s my time” counter is at 4. Up to 6.

    Anthony Davis: It’s more about legacy over money. When I’m done playing or leave this earth, it’ll be about my legacy.

    Anthony Davis says this wasn’t something he thought about when he switched to Rich Paul.

    Anthony Davis says it was a “tough” conversation with Jrue Holiday when he told him about his decision.

    Anthony Davis says “I get it” about being removed from the teams hype video.

    Anthony Davis: I’m going to remain professional. I’m under contract, until my time ends here, that’s what I’ll do.

    Anthony Davis on if the Pelicans want to hold him out: “They have every right to do that.”
     
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