Lol yeah, another reason to stay away from Wall, never liked his attitude. Now just think about him playing for a FIBA coach in Phoenix next to Booker (who has a bigger ego than Beal)...what can possibly go wrong? Lol...
Did he pull some 3rd stringers and beat the 1st team? Did he tell Scott Brooks & Ernie Grunfeld "You ****ing need me. You can't win without me?" Where was Rachel Nichols for the immediate sit-down interview? Oh, just a simple "**** you" to Scott Brooks and then apologized? Meh. . . Spoiler Of course John Wall isn't capable of beating the 1st team with 3rd stringers and of course the Wizards don't ****ing need him. They're terrible with him and his $40M/year contract.
How about this? http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydy8qgfc Wizards trade Wall's worst enemy, replace Beal with a similar player (Gordon), swap a bad contract (Mahinmi) into two solid bench players on decent/good contracts (Augustin/Simmons) and lower the team salary by 8M. Magic trade two bench tier players for a potential starter in a spot where they're super weak and get back some sweeteners (2nd rounder/s etc...) Spoiler Too bad Knight is injured isn't the current general manager of Orlando the same who traded for him in Milwaukee though? Not sure now...
Yeah, I'm just not really feeling any of the Wizards toxic assets. http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...ing-washington-wizards-roster-nba-trade-value Ranking Wall, Beal and the Wizards by NBA trade value November 19, 2018 What trade value do the Washington Wizards' veterans have? According to a report Monday by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski, the 5-11 Wizards have given teams the impression that anyone on the roster is available for trade discussions. Trade value can be quite different from on-court value, of course -- a player's trade value is what another team would be willing to give up. Based on their on-court value and current contracts, let's take a look at what value Washington's players should have in a deal and what kinds of teams might be a fit. 1. Bradley Beal Beal's availability is clearly the biggest news from today's report. As a current All-Star (having made it for the first time last season) with more than two years left on a reasonable contract, Beal would be a rarity on the trade market. Typically, players of Beal's caliber only come available if they're nearing free agency and ask out or -- like Wall -- have onerous contracts. I think the last player traded that met these criteria (two-plus years left, current All-Star) was Chauncey Billups when he went from the Detroit Pistons to the Denver Nuggets a decade ago. We shouldn't overstate Beal's value. As a fringy All-Star -- he's no certainty to get selected this year given the Wizards' poor start -- he's closer to fairly paid at $81 million over the next three seasons than a huge bargain. Still, Beal has substantial trade value because of how easily he can fit into any setting. Beal is a plus catch-and-shoot jump shooter (his 61.7 percent effective field goal percentage on such attempts ranked 27th among players with at least 100 attempts last season, per Second Spectrum tracking) and a capable pick-and-roll ballhandler, allowing him to play either on or off the ball, depending on the talent around him. Because of his contract, Beal would be an ideal target for a team with cap flexibility that's not a destination for free agents. Sending Washington expiring contracts (along with the necessary young talent and/or draft picks) would be the best chance of landing a star using that flexibility. Beal might be a fit for the Brooklyn Nets or New Orleans Pelicans under that logic. 2. Kelly Oubre Jr. Because he was taken outside the lottery (15th overall) before rookie contracts for first-round picks were adjusted upward to match the growth of the salary cap, Oubre is making just $3.2 million in the final season of his deal -- the ninth-highest salary on the Wizards and a bargain for a contributor on the wing. Unfortunately, Oubre's development as a 3-point shooter last season (when he shot a career-high 34 percent beyond the arc) hasn't translated this year, as he's down to 28 percent on 75 attempts. He probably can't yet be considered a 3-and-D role player, particularly in the crucible of the playoffs. But Oubre provides enough defensive versatility to stay on the court with his ability to defend any of the three perimeter spots, and he could command a low-end first-round pick from a wing-needy team like the Philadelphia 76ers under the logic that his restricted status will cool his market in free agency next summer. 3. Otto Porter Jr. Porter's perceived value suffers from the notion that a max player should provide more box score production than the 14.7 points and 6.3 rebounds he averaged last season. Certainly, any team that deals for Porter expecting a prolific source of offense will be disappointed. According to Second Spectrum tracking, he posted a 49.8 percent eFG on self-created shots last season, as compared to 64.7 percent on catch-and-shoot opportunities. Given the right supporting talent, however, Porter can be valuable in a 3-and-D role. He's a career 40 percent shooter from beyond the arc who's also been around 40 percent in the past two seasons combined. And Porter can capably defend either forward position. Last season, the Wizards defended better with Porter at the 4, according to analysis of lineup data from NBA Advanced Stats, and such lineups outscored opponents by 6.5 points per 100 possessions. Because of his $26 million salary, Washington could probably count more on salary relief for Porter than the star Wojnarowski reported they hoped to get. Nonetheless, a team with star talent in need of supporting pieces -- the Pelicans again seem ideal -- would be wise to pursue Porter. 4. Tomas Satoransky A steady backup point guard with enough size and shooting ability to play alongside a point guard (as he has at times with Wall), Satoransky would be an immediate upgrade for a team with a need at the position. Most contenders seem to have filled that spot, but if the Houston Rockets don't want to wait on Brandon Knight's return to give them insurance behind James Harden and Chris Paul, Marquese Chriss and a second-round pick for Satoransky would be a tax-neutral option for them. 5. Jeff Green After years of disappointing teams that paid heavily to acquire him, Green has become a useful contributor at the veteran's minimum, first for the Cleveland Cavaliers and now the Wizards. He's served as Washington's backup center for extended stretches this season in small, switch-heavy lineups that have been reasonably effective. Green probably won't fetch much in trade but could be a target if he agrees to a buyout. He'd also make some sense for the Rockets if they wanted to use him as a 5. 6. Markieff Morris Morris' slow start in a contract year has been a factor in the Wizards' disappointing record. He's grabbing a career-low 15.5 percent of available defensive rebounds, one reason why Washington is 29th in the league overall in defensive rebounding. Although this surely can't be blamed entirely on Morris, the Wizards are allowing an incredible 12.6 more points per 100 possessions with him on the court this season, according to NBA Advanced Stats. With Morris also slumping beyond the arc (34 percent), the best Washington could probably hope to do is save some money by dealing him for a non-contributor with a smaller salary. 7. Austin Rivers At $12.65 million in the final season of his contract, Rivers is going to be a tough sell, particularly in the midst of a shooting slump. After hitting 37.5 percent of his 3s the past two seasons, Rivers is down to a below-average 33.3 percent so far this year. The Wizards would probably have to attach a draft pick to save money by trading Rivers for a lower-salaried player. 8. John Wall Wall is both Washington's best player and perhaps the most difficult to trade because of his supermax extension that kicks in next season, as my ESPN colleague Zach Lowe explored in his recent Wizards column. Based on the current estimate for his salary, just three players -- Stephen Curry, Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook -- will make more than Wall in 2019-20. (James Harden will make the same amount on an identical supermax extension.) Wall has never been a top-five player, and while other big contracts will be signed between now and then, he's exceedingly unlikely to be anywhere near that status by the end of his contract in 2022-23 at age 32. Point guards who rely more on their quickness than shooting ability tend to lose value more quickly in their early 30s, and Wall's history of knee injuries exacerbates the risk he'll be a liability by then. So, barring a truly desperate trade partner that doesn't seem to exist right now, Washington would more likely have to include draft picks in a Wall trade than get them back. 9. Dwight Howard Given how poorly the Wizards started in his absence, Howard can't be blamed for the team's struggles. However, a limited Howard clearly hasn't been the solution either. Given the bridges Howard has burned in his past stops and his $5.6 million player option for 2019-20, it's unlikely another team would deal for him. 10. Ian Mahinmi If he hit the market as an unrestricted free agent now, Mahinmi might not get much more than the veteran's minimum after two seasons of average play for a backup center with the Wizards. Instead, because he hit free agency during the 2016 cap spike after a solid season as a starter in Indiana, Mahinmi is making $15.9 million this season and $15.5 million in 2019-20. Washington would surely have to include at least one first-round pick to shed Mahinmi's salary at this point.
I don't like this for us at all. Mahimi is not very good at this stage in his career and swapping Gordon for Beal is a lateral move at best; especially given that the team seemed to have chemistry issues recently after shaking it up in the offseason. If Philly makes a play for one of the Wizards big three, we could maybe scoop up Wilson Chandler on the cheap (I'm talking Fultz + Philly draft picks + Brandon Knight's contract and maybe a sweetner from us for Porter or Beal to Philly and Chandler coming here). More realistically, if we could pick up Vucevic in a deal with the Magic or Wizards we'd be in a good spot. He could take Nene's minutes and is on an expiring. I'd love Simmons as well.
Mahinmi is obviously not good, but in that scenario we would basically swap him for Knight which isn't exactly better value, and with doing so we would probably be able to trade one less 1st rounder. Beal is basically Gordon with 4/5 less years, better handler/passer, way more consistent shooter, way better asset, what's not to like? It's not like we can expect to trade for Durant, Lebron or Davis... Personally i was ok with Wilson Chandler a couple of years ago, now he's starting in Philly cause they gave up both Covington and Saric but he looks pretty much done, i don't think he would get minutes over Ennis and Clark. As for Vuc i'm not a fan, he's just not a good fit here, old school PF/C with no defense whatsoever, he's basically Monroe/Kanter etc...these guys are just not starting centers in this era, ok coming off the bench but probably just for the regular season...if we get Vuc there's a good chance we end up with an expiring backup that would end up this way: Waste of assets imo.
Wizards In No Rush To Trade Either John Wall Or Bradley Beal The Washington Wizards are in no rush to trade either John Wall or Bradley Beal, according to sources. No trade appears imminent at this time, according to sources. Beal has three seasons and $81 million remaining on his contract, while Wall's four-year, $171 million extension begin in 19-20. League executives believe Beal could generate a bigger return on the trade market than recent trades involving Blake Griffin and Kawhi Leonard. __________________________________ Sorry, guess that Eric Gordon-Nene-Quese trade package won't cut it. Blake Griffin: Traded with Brice Johnson & Willie Reed for Avery Bradley, Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanovic, 2018 1st round pick & 2019 2nd round pick. Kawhi Leonard: Traded with Danny Green & cash for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl & 2019 1st round pick. (2019 1st-rd pick is top-20 protected)
Two weeks ago the Wizards said the same... Wall and Beal aren’t moving anytime soon. Let’s see what happens.
Looking again at that package the Clippers got, it's not even special, a decent 1st and Harris, Blake after all is playing ok and he's better than Harris who also wants to get paid so...the most valuable thing they got was cap space, and this will still be true if they use that to sign a star, if they sign Tobias to a 100M contract well... Spurs got a much better package obviously, but Kawhi is a top 3/5 player in the league so, yeah... Beal for as good as he is, he's not worth a Kawhi kind of package.
Not surprised they are poking around on Morris. Thanks for confirming. He is expiring. He has a relationship with Harden. As a backup C/PF he could provide some bench depth. I could see the Wizards just giving him away just to help chemistry on that team. Like you said Chriss+Nene could get it done.
