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With Tracy McGrady as our #1 guy, we are going nowhere

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MacYao223, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. Angkor Wat

    Angkor Wat Member

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    T-Mac always steps up in the playoffs. Can you say the same about his teammates? One man can't do it all.
     
  2. sw847

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    I mean no disrespect to the all-time greats (mj, magic, bird, duncan...too young to remember anyone before magic and bird), just based on his stats in the games he have played. But the difference between these players and Tmac is that he does not provide that fire for his team-mates. It seems that Tmac is not a motivator. A franchise player should be the one who the team feeds off.
     
  3. Legend Killer

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    And it doesn't help Tmac that his so called superstars teammate
    is running on E during crunch time in the playoffs. Too tired to grab a board
    too tired to defend Boozer and too tired to win
     
  4. f_chowd0696

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    thanks :D

    misinterpreted his meaning...

    However my point is still valid... Yao has been in only 3 playoff series compared to Mcgrady's 7.... If Yao Ming is with the Rockets for the next decade or so and gives us another 0-4 for the first round... trust me, I will me spewing the same disappointment that I am expressing with Mcgrady.
     
  5. Jeff Who

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    I said excatly the same. You can't win playoffs series without team play, without your teammates.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    kobe hasn't won one as the main guy either. he has put up the best individual stats out of all the perimeter players currently playing in the playoffs. what i'm trying to say is he does do his part in the playoffs and more.

    didn't kobe blow a 3-1 lead just 2 yrs ago? the supposedly 2nd best SG of all time??? :eek:

    tmac would have won last yr if yao just has ONE dominant game.

    i'm not saying tmac will be the best player in this playoffs, but i trust that he will step up and play beyond what he has done during this reg. season. it hasn't been his fault that his teams havent advanced. if you blame him, well you're just nitpicking.

    dude has taken ALL of his teams to the maximum amount of games (5 or 7) against better teams.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    if tmac does not elevate his game in the playoffs, maybe it's a sign that his game has regressed.

    every year his level of play in the playoffs >>> reg. season.

    we'll see about this season. if not, maybe it's time for us to let him go. but win or lose, tmac has to SHINE in this playoffs and be a top 3 player.
     
  8. f_chowd0696

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    no, he doesnt always step it up in the playoffs... The Jazz series is a prime example.... Just because he average 25ppg doesnt mean ****.... shooting under 40% is pathetic and a ****ing disgrace.... The only players I see in the league who shoot under 40% are those short 6 foot scoring gaurds like AI..... Mcgrady could of done much better in the series..... and ofcourse his teamates could of done MUCH MUCH better also... so in other words....

    its Mcgrady's and his teamate's fault for loosing in the 07 playoffs, not just his teamate's fault.
     
  9. Legend Killer

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    But TMac is not 0-7 with the Rockets either
    He is the 0-2 with Houston
    Yao is 0-3 with Houston
     
  10. f_chowd0696

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    except the 07 playoff season... unless shooting unless he did shoot less than 39% for the season in 06-07???
     
  11. byrdman22

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    Thats wrong Yao went 30 plus in a couple of games. What you meant to say is that if Tracy would have drove to the basket one time in the last 2 minutes of a home game 7 we would have won. But then Tracy would have to shoot FTS to keep us in the game and he would rather be the guy that cant get out of the 1st round instead of Nick Anderson. Yao actually shoot a little bit better in the clutch if you have not noticed.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    wow, if you're gonna blame a perimeter player for shooting 39%, what about a 7-6 dude shooting 44% v. SINGLE COVERAGE in the post?

    and yao hasn't faced any criticism, defensive pressure... that tmac has faced.

    and that's one freakin' series. tmac still put up 2 career-playoff #s in games 5 and 7. he stepped up enough in games 1 and 2. his teammates just needed to win ONE GAME for him last yr. ONE GAME my friend -> that game should have been led by yao.
     
  13. f_chowd0696

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    does it matter what franchise Mcgrady has done it with.... Mcgrady has had SEVEN tries to get out of the first round and failed on all SEVEN of them... failing 3 times can sometimes be a coincidence, but after 7 times... something is wrong here...
     
  14. t_mac1

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    this is the weird thing about you guys who defend yao and trash tmac.

    sure tmac could have driven, but what about the SIX rebounds yao got in game 7 AT HOME? and his man got the THREE crucial rebounds that took off 2-3 minutes of game time in a 3pt game.

    it's unbelievable how you guys who think yao is so great, let him off, and just trash tmac like he's nothing.

    tmac could have played better last yr, but yao actually did worse.
     
  15. solid

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    Sad, but likely true. There is a tiny little pilot light of a fire that burns within him, not enough to do great things. I absolutely hate the "chunking." Tonight he didn't even bother to square up, he just started throwing up garbage. Ridiculous. But in all fairness, Yao wasn't exactly a fireball against Utah during last years playoffs.
     
  16. byrdman22

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    Yao was a rookie playing Kobe and Shaq that 1st series and the next best player was Francis.

    All Tmac has to do is go to the basket over and over again to get out of the 1st round. Thats what Dwayne, Iverson, Kobe, and Lebron all do. Thats how you win durning the playoffs. The team is good enough, Tracy is just too scared.
     
  17. f_chowd0696

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    Yao should receive some criticism for the 07 series.... so should Mcgrady.... problem with you damn T-mac apologists is T-mac deserves none of the blame and his teammates should deserve all of it... It goes both ways....
     
  18. T.Mcgrady

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    Name something he could of done differently in any playoff series save Utah.

    That's what I thought. I'm starting to doubt you've followed McGrady prior to this year and last. Some of the comments you're making are ridiculous. There's a reason why people put him on the same level as Kobe for the majority of his career.
     
  19. T.Mcgrady

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    Really? Off of what you've said so far in this thread you've been pinning the losses on McGrady.

    I can quote you then sig this if you need a constant reminder of your own ignorance.
     
  20. f_chowd0696

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    EVERYONE WA TO ****ING BLAME!!!! EVERYONE!!! OKAY!!! ****!!! EVEN MCGOD HIMSELF WAS TO BLAME!!! ****ING CHRIST!!!!
     

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