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With Tmac on our side, we fear no one!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wreck, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. yaoza ming

    yaoza ming Rookie

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    also the Lakers. I hate them, I hate them. I hope TMAC owns kobe on wednesday.
     
  2. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Member

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    Not a bad idea about going to Tracy earlier.

    Shaq and Kobe both averaged over 25 ppg for a couple of seasons right?

    Go to Tracy in the first.
    Let Yao do his thing in the second and third.
    Tracy finishes the fourth.

    Sounds easy enough to me.
     
  3. IC2000

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    there doesnt seem to be
     
  4. Gay4Battier

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    Trade Tmac right now while he has some value, because you just know that he will get injure again ..
     
  5. macfan

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    there isn't

    Enough with the cryptology :)
     
  6. macfan

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    So you average Joe would pretend to know more about Tmac than the 29 General Managers who are in the business of signing contracts?
     
  7. ShadyMcGrady

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    Hahaha of course. Us as Houston Rocket fans watch the team and the players more than anybody in the league therefore we OWN the GM's in basketball knowledge.

    All the GM's will do is say "Wow McGrady can still put up 44!? Let's give him our star player and maybe a draft pick and hope we can get him! I mean if John Patterson says he's fixed, you have to believe him. Big risk = Big rewards, right?"

    :p

    McGrady is like a relatively old used car you've put a hell of a lot of money into upgrading it. The pricetag is high and the car is used and could have some underlying problems like frame damage. And there's no warranty for private party sales. ;)

    No matter how much you've invested in the car, it will be hard to sell for the price you think is right because no one wants to spend that much money on a used car unless they are really in the market for that particular type of car. It's pretty hard to find people like that.

    At this point, he's worth more to this franchise than to any other team simply because no team wants to invest that much money into someone who's almost guaranteed to miss significant time throughout the rest of his career. We've already invested in him so there's no choice.
     
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    all I got to say is... TMAC needs to put that back specialist on retainer for the rest of his career...

    and the ball should go into Tmac's hand first on the offensive set... so he can either pass to Yao or make a shot... or play

    however...

    I said this when Tmac was playing bad...that all he needed to do was coast until the playoffs... maybe thats what he has been doing...

    if thats the case... lets let him coast again until we get there... then turn him loose again...
     
  9. wnes

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    You are clearly confused and let your emotion speak on behalf of you.

    According to Basketball-Reference.com, by the time TMac reached age 22, he had already amassed more than 4100 points and 1600 rebounds. At the same age, Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar each had exactly zilch in either category. When you are talking about all four reach the same milestone at rougly the same young age, 27, the accomplishment of the guy who started 4 years early should of course be "discounted." If you demand same limit on the end point of a temporal comparison for different individuals, it's only fitting you place roughly the same exactitude on the starting point, otherwise the comparison is not fair. This shouldn't be hard to understand, tiger. I don't know why you are getting upset here.

    BTW, while Kobe may not be an amicable person in real life, he is a great basketball player. I bet TMac himself wouldn't feel ashamed if he and Kobe are mentioned in the same breath. TMac, being 2 inch taller and playing SF sometime, has a clear edge on Kobe in rebounds, but Kobe has done slightly better than TMac in points. If the artificial standard of the "milestone" were set differently in that it favored points total a little more than rebounds total, Kobe could come out as the winner. Either way, both are superstars of their generations.

    You are entitled to your opinion, I am free to scoff at the hyperboles.
     
  10. macfan

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    14000 points 4000 rebounds at the age of 27 is not a hyperbole

    It's a fact based on measurable quantities
     
  11. tigermission1

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    Not upset at all, just trying to see where you're coming from. I understand your point, but it's not like I said McGrady was as good as Wilt, Kareem, or Big O...I merely said that he did something unique, that it IS an accomplishment, and that if nothing else it gives us NBA fans an indication of just how unique a player he is. Most guards in the league just aren't nearly as well-rounded as McGrady is. It's a good barometer of his abilities and what he has done throughout his career, nothing more really. I didn't annoint him as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    You're making it sound like I am knocking Kobe, when I am doing anything but. The guy is a GREAT player, I never for a second claimed otherwise, so let me just clarify that to begin with.

    As for Kobe's point totals (17,719 total points vs. McGrady's 14,134) you're right that he has scored more total points in his career. However, you're ignoring a lot of factors that have played into it, let me mention a few:

    1) Kobe Bryant, in his career, has played a total of 26,419 minutes over 737 career games played. In contrast, Tracy McGrady played only 22,213 minutes (more than 4000 minutes less) over 638 career games played (roughly 100 games less); for argument's sake, let's assume that McGrady would average 40 minutes a game, then he would need to average that many minutes over 100 NBA games just to match the career minutes played by Kobe Bryant. If we're to assume that McGrady would average 22.2 PPG during that stretch (his career PPG average), then that's another 2220 points added to his current total...that would place him roughly 1300 points behind Kobe...that's a whopping 2 point/per game more McGrady needed to average over his career.

    2) In the rebounding department, while Kobe has played 99 career games more than McGrady has (that's more than a whole season's worth of games), Kobe has a career total of 3791 rebounds, while McGrady -- despite having played more than a season less than Kobe over the span of their respective careers, i.e. ten NBA seasons -- still holds more than a 250 rebounds edge over Kobe. The fact that you're attributing this to "height" is just silly, because there is ample precedence of players shorter than Kobe 6'6" frame who have done a better job rebounding the ball. It's not a knock on Kobe by any stretch of the imagination, but I think that 'whole two inches taller' argument is irrelevant in this case, given that some shorter perimeter players have Kobe beat in that department (including Steve Francis, btw).

    Yes, you are certainly free to do so...and not just in McGrady's case.
     
  12. mrmrdan

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    It's 4 games now jeeze people. If Tmac keeps playing like this for the rest of the season I'll gladly eat crow. Until then prove me wrong.
     
  13. mrmrdan

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    Btw I like Tmac, but I'm a Rockets fan first. I post what I think is the best for the team.
     
  14. MacYao223

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    Do y'all realize Tmac has really gotten his fg% to go up tremendously the last few weeks. For the year, he seemed to be shooting continually at like 39 or 40%, but now he is shooting 43.3% which is better than his 04-05 season. I think he could be averaging 27 ppg before the all star break
     
  15. wreck

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    I dont really think he practiced shooting too much in the offseason. But when he got injured and he worked his way back this season, i think thats when he started shooting since he couldnt really run or jump all that much
     
  16. aussie rocket

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    there is definetely gonna be some extra spice to the Lakers Rockets game coming up.

    Man, I hope Mac outplays Kobe and the Rockets win...anything less would be a disapointment. I mean he doesnt have to totally OWN KB24, but just do enough to get us the win.
     
  17. blazer_ben

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    Dont bother with Him. he thinks if anyone says anything positive about tracy, there anti-yao. he is a blind fanatical tracy hater.
     
  18. wiredog

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    so we have to hold people's age and position against them when comparing stat? that's obsurd. so since t-mac skiiped college and had a "head start" somehow his stats are tainted? complete non-sense. if anything, praise the guy for handling such pressure at young age without the benefits of a college experience. and because he plays at a position where he has more chance to score, there should be an *? get real. just admit you are a t-mac hater. people will respect u more.
     
  19. lastopsuburb

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    T-Mac is just warming up. He is just preparing to humiliate Kobe Bryant on Wednesday and let the world know he is #1. :cool:
     
  20. pradaxpimp

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    u'd be amazed at what victor conte can do.
     

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