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With this Dwightmare, was LeBrons decision really all that bad?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jgreen91, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. t_mac1

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    Lebron responded the season following the decision with 27, 8, 7 on 51% shooting. He would have won the MVP if not for Rose's good story. And his team went to the Finals.

    Dwight was an embarrassment in the first round of the playoffs v. the Spurs with no Kobe.

    Look, I hope he does great. And he really doesn't need to be that dominant offensively b/c we have Harden. But he needs to improve his game a little bit and stop being a wuss offensively. He has less post moves than I can count on one hand.
     
  2. Air Langhi

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    We got Dwight so who cares.
     
  3. Swishh

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    After learning many of the rumors from the 'sources' regarding Dwight were complete bogus, no, this decision still doesn't come close to Lebrons decision. Even if the rumors were true, it still wouldn't surpass lebrons decision.
     
  4. Maikeru

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    He contacted the teams he was interested in. Prepared all the questions he wanted to ask them. Went to a nice relaxing place to weigh his options for 3 days. Made up his mind and respectfully contacted each team before the trade deadline. And finally went in person to LA to tell them his decision.
    Say what you want, he handled it like any normal professional would. The media really tries to portrait him like some attention grabbing fickle minded man child. The man walked away from $30 million. Try making that decision in 3 days...(the gawd to call it a dwightmare...geesh)
     
  5. bloodwings19

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    Big difference is Lebron was willing to sacrifice his scoring unlike Kobe, who wasn't going to let Dwight be the man. With exception to his rookie season, King James scoring average per season with the Heat is lower than any of his Cavaliers season. No doubt Dwight has a chip on his shoulder, he has been unlike his Magic days. This is why we should be excited about overcoming his 2 years of Dwightmare.
     
  6. Jeff Who

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    There realy is no comparision between Dwight's and Lebron's decisions.LeBron's was MUCH worse
     
  7. t_mac1

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    Dwight has a chance to be coached by 2 of the best post players of all time. If he doesn't show up next year with any semblance of an improved post game, his offense will never go anywhere. Let's hope he becomes a gym rate and work on that post game.
     
  8. BigM

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    Dwight met with the teams and then went to Colorado and didn't say a word until he had made up his mind. I'd say most of this was completely created by the media and fan paranoia. I think he did exactly what he should have done.

    Lebron made a freaking television special. Enough said.
     
  9. chrispbrown

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    While the decision tv special was stupid and dancing around, not 1,2,3,4, yada yada was even worse...that was never this issue for me with Lebron, it was about choosing to go to Miami. I will always see him as a quitter.
     
  10. jgreen91

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    ahahahahah. A Quitter with 4 MVPs, 2 rings, and 2 Finals MVPs. LMFAO
     
  11. Mr. Space City

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    i don't even know why jgreen91 made this thread.

    now that dwight is a rocket you know the homers are going to defend him no matter what now.
     
  12. jgreen91

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    CAST YOUR VOTE: ‘THE DECISION’ OR ‘THE DWIGHTMARE?’

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/...the-decision-or-the-dwightmare/?ls=nbahpfull1

    At least with The Dwightmare, we didn’t have Jim Gray stalling for a half hour with questions about biting fingernails.

    That was one of several things that made The Decision – LeBron James‘ ill-advised, prime-time, tin-ear, vanity TV production – such a monumental gaffe and something that, two NBA championships and Finals MVP trophies later, the league’s best player still hasn’t completely lived down.
    There are those who may never forgive that hour of hubris, punctuated by James’ somewhat clumsy “taking my talents to South Beach” phrasing when he finally announced his free-agent choice back in July 2010. Many still are more rankled by the ESPN-aired reveal than by what the All-Star forward’s departure meant to the Cleveland Cavaliers, how it signaled the AAU-ificiation of NBA roster-building or any of the other nits that get picked over that decision.

    On balance, though, Dwight Howard‘s Dwightmare has been plenty bad. Worse, it says here at HTB.

    Left up to Howard, any TV show dedicated to his free-agent choice would have ended like “The Sopranos” finale. Before anyone learned anything.
    Look, we were in the gym that night in Greenwich, Conn., when James and his advisors used a background of kids at the Boys & Girls Club as background props. That organization benefited greatly – commercial fees from The Decision show generated an estimated $2.5 million that went to the charity – but the whole event was off-key. It landed with a thud.

    Frankly, only a heroic return to the Cavs, with the kids rushing to encircle and embrace James, could have salvaged the thing. He was uncharacteristically self-conscious that night, visibly uncomfortable sitting across from Gray on-camera, hyper off it as he dashed quickly to a rest room afterward.

    As for the process itself, James went through the whole courting game, with six teams (Heat, Knicks, Nets, Clippers, Bulls and Cavs) pitching him in a downtown Cleveland office building. That took three days. One bogus report said James would make up his mind by July 5 but it wasn’t until July 8 that The Decision actually aired. So five days passed while everyone waited … and twisted in the wind.

    Howard? He took just two days to hear out five teams (Rockets, Mavericks, Warriors, Hawks and Lakers). By Wednesday, he was in Aspen, Colo., weighing factors, eliminating suitors. And then it was done, Friday afternoon, no manufactured suspense, no hokey Q&A with a hand-picked interviewer. He fast-tracked James’ timetable by three full days.

    Except for … Twitter. Which changed everything.

    Three years ago, the social networking behemoth was in its relative infancy, still a toy for the public, a new tool for the media. In June 2010, for instance, Twitter management estimated that it saw about 65 million Tweets per day, up from 2 million just 18 months earlier but a fraction of what it processes now. Are you sitting down? By March 2013, on its seventh “birthday,” Twitter reported an average of 400 million Tweets per day.

    Put another way, that’s 1 billion Tweets every 2.5 days.

    No more than half of which were dedicated to NBA free agency this week.
    Factor in all those Tweets with what seems to be, given the number of Web sites, blogs and old-fashioned print outlets, a sports media “bubble” these days and it’s safe to say that no NBA superstar’s impending free agency ever got the amount of coverage that Howard’s did. That’s especially true since his has gone on for essentially 19 months; from the start of the 2011-12 post-lockout season to this terrain-altering Houston Rockets development, Howard has been way more a free agent-to-be than an All-Star center.
    His final season in Orlando was marred by the rumors and speculation of “What will Dwight do?” until he finally waived his opt-out. Last August, the blockbuster trade that convulsed four franchises was followed not by the Lakers’ giddy march to The Finals but by a horrid start, a revolving door of coaches and a scramble just to make the playoffs. And then this, the vigil, chronicled not 24/7 like the old “new” media but 60/60 by the newest, minutes and seconds taking over for hours and days.

    But wait, there was more: With James, there was the sense that the payoff, ultimately, would be supreme. He was on his way to greatness, with a championship very likely to follow. At 25, he already was a two-time Most Valuable Player by July 2010 and was hitting his prime, heading into a grand experiment with two other All-Stars and a leader, in Pat Riley, who ranked as one of the most decorated and competitive in league annals.

    Howard, at 27, has back surgery on his medical charts and something less than a fire-breathing reputation as a competitor. His game has plateaued and the Rockets’ last NBA championship came when their new centerpiece was in fourth grade. Kevin McHale should be able to give Howard the best big-man mentoring he’s ever had but James Harden has only one year as a No. 1 option behind him and the pecking order in Houston is very much in flux again.
    Howard’s selection of the Rockets seems more basketball-driven than if he’d re-upped in Los Angeles for its show-biz proximity, nightlife diversions and endorsements upside. But we won’t know that for a while.

    The curious thing is, Howard’s reputation for clowning and indecisiveness might improve by what flows from The Dwightmare, whereas James’ reputation – pretty solid and, if not liked, at least appreciated – went south overnight for so many with The Decision. Still, Howard’s went on too long and, until there’s some hardware in Houston, will not have the gravity that James’ switch of teams produced.

    So which was worse for you: The Decision or The Dwightmare?
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Why? He's admitted he is a Heat and Lebron homer. So it makes sense to trot out this thread.

    Kind of blew up in his face though, when Dwight handled the last six months so professionally, including his face-to-face with the Lakers yesterday before making his official announcement.
     
  14. Easy

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    If Lebron really cared about the children, he could just donate 2% of his income each year. It would have been more than what he raised in covering for the attention grabbing stun.
     
  15. Mr. Space City

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    players still want their hard earned money you use to buy things for themselves and their family.

    nothing wrong with raising a bunch of money for children by just sitting in a chair and announcing your next team.

    ya'll do understand ya'll didn't have to watch the decision right?

    "why is lebron forcing me to watch this by not forcing me to watch this?!?!?!?" :mad:
     
  16. BEAT LA

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    You call us homers, but it is obvious you are a LeBron fan.
     
  17. Mr. Space City

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    i'm a rockets fans. guaranteed if lebron chose the rockets none of you would care about the decision.
     
  18. roslolian

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    No, if he cared about children he'll do something for them, which is what he did.
    I don't see you raising money for charity, why do you expect him to go over and beyond what he did already?
     
  19. roslolian

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    You can be fan and still be objective, it doesn't mean you have to be blind to everything. The fact is the Decision did something good for the world, and you can't say that for the Dwightmare. Most of the posters here are just biased or think that their own disdain for the thought of the decision is more important than children receiving the monetary help they need.
     
  20. BEAT LA

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    Here is the problem with this thread. I think Dwight handled it more professionally than LeBron, but I dont think either of them deserved the treatment they received by fans and the media. Both of them made mistakes, but the media twisted everything they did to turn it into a story. Negative publicity sells more than good publicity. Just watch TMZ for 1 minute.

    If it weren't for the media constantly asking these players where they were going in the off season during the regular season and constantly speculating and spinning everything they say then players would have it much easier. But they are millionaires, and this is part of their job. They have to deal with it. You guys are making it worse by buying into it and making a discussion out of it.
     

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