With Lower Estimated Cap, Rockets Probably Can't Offer Max

Relax guys... just cause the salary cap is in the 50 millions... doesnt mean much. Last year and this year everyone except for about 5 teams in the NBA had a salary OVER 50 mil. With most of the playoff contenders well above 60-70 million per team and the Salary cap has only lowered what... 1-2 mil? So stop freaking out. Its the luxury cap that matters most and thats set around 70 million. Thats when teams start getting penalized for being OVER the salary cap. We'll be fine since Les Alexander makes enough money off of the Rockets. He's not cheap and he doesn't mind going over the Luxury if we can sign the right players and have a chance to compete. Plus think about all the money he's saving this year with Yao and Tracy out... we're not the one's paying their salary while they're injured, its the insurance companies. While their salaries take up our "team salary cap", it's not costing anything for Les. I still expect us to be big contenders in next year's Free Agency

 

Salary cap IS a big deal. We can't offer as much to big time FA's than other teams who are more under the salary cap...

 

Yes, but if every team is in the same position as us (especially the big time contending teams), which they all are... then it's the players who are going to be crying. You really think every team will be able to sign players to 20+ million contracts? How many of the current teams will have the flexibility to do so? I'd like to see a list...

 

Bima's saying we probably won't be able to add 1 superstar so I'm guessing we have 0 shot at adding 2. What I'm suggesting is that we go 10 deep with solid NBA contributors, signing an 8 Million dollar SG FA and another Mid-level SF/SG and run the uptempo offense and really focus on D.

As long as Yao is in the picture, that's about the best we can do under the cap and luxury rules.

 

While I totally agree with you on getting a Joe Jonhson, for the last few years we've pretty much been a "perrenial playoff team", we just got stuck in the first round. So yeah, the MAX players we've got now haven't been enough for a trip to the WCF. There are those that blame the talent around our MAX player for that though. Then there are those who plame the MAX players themselves.

 

The Rockets currently don't have a core, they're a donut team. A bunch of role players surrounding about $35 milllion of empty space.

 

I bet that Morey is goin after Camby

 

You said our best case scenario was around 13 MM and you had a 4 man roster. I showed that we could have around 18 MM in cap space with a roster of Yao,Ariza,Landry,White,Buddinger which is around 4.5 MM with one more roster spot filled than you had in your best case scenario. If you read the post I just made I also said that this isn't what I think we should do but it's just how I am showing that we can take on a max contract if we want to. You asked how we could be under the cap and I explained how so don't get all defensive when I show you how we could especially when I say it's something I think we shouldn't do but could if we wanted to.

In my first post on here i said that Morey could easily position us to get a max contract if he wanted to and I stand by that. If I can find a way to get us under the cap I'm sure Morey could find a much better way to go about it through trades and so on bc he has a much better knowledge of how the cap works. My original post was not an attack on you it was just me saying that I was sure we could get more cap space if we wanted to.

 

Until the economy improves the days of the 20 million dollar multi-year contract is dead. Everyone on this board is thinking that the "super" free agents like Wade, LBJ, Bosh, Novitski, etc. are all going to sign 20 plus million dollar contracts. I don't think so. Where is all this money.

Next summer the Rockets are dumping over 28 million dollars in salary contracts, Tmac, 23 mil, Cook, 3.5 mil, Barry 2 mil. Everybody is whining that we will be lucky to sign a couple of bench warmers. If that is the case what is the rest of the NBA going to do.

In fact max contract next year will be considerably smaller than they are now. No team is going to sign the "super stars" to 25 million dollar multi-year contracts. That would mean that that team would have approximately 25 million dollars left to sign a minimum of 11 other players to fill out the roster. Each of those "role" players would sign at around $ 2 million apiece. That will not happen. A team like that would not be competitive and would not make any money.

The Rockets are in great financial shape. We will have plenty of money to sign another super star. The only difference is that that super star is not going to earn the kind of money that he thinks he deserves. Next summer there are going to be a large number of unhappy prima dona professional basketball players visiting their analysis and asking how they will be able to survive on 15 million dollars a year. Those gentlemen are about to receive a huge dose of fiscal reality.

If you are a Capitalist you already know that the market will always take care of itself. And the Rockets will be in the thick of it next summer.

 

Add Max Free Agent Brandon Roy (25% of cap) $12.6 mil


Wouldn't the roster charge be $478,6304 times 7 players, after we sign our max free agent like Brandon Roy? Wouldn't this go down with each additional player that is signed, such as our drafted rookies? After those guys are signed, it raises the cap gradually. Then we can go over the cap with the MLE and the Bi-annual exception.

 

Never mind, I just saw this post.

 

My post a page or two ago was referencing after Tmac's contract has expired, looking at 2010/11 and of course requires a few moves to get 12 or 13 mil in cap space. I expect as the poster above, other than the big 4, good mid-level free agents will be available at affordable contracts and with 13 million you could add two significant pieces. And if Yao plays then, you've got something.

Which begs the question "on what date does that happen?", before the FA period of 2010? (I'd guess it would be when the whistle blows on the game when the Rocks are officially eleminated)

I had this:

2010/11

Lowry, Brooks
FA#1, Taylor
Ariza, FA#2, Budinger
Scola, Landry, (Hayes or Dorsey)
Yao, (Battier Trade)

But I guess I will have to take Scola out of it.

 

Or we could just do what I have been saying for a month now. Trade Battier to Potland for Fernandez straight up and save 5 MILLION.

 

Drexler was the best if you count his time in Portland. If not, then I'd give the nod to Francis.

 

Whoa, posted in the wrong thread, Sorry guys. Admin delete this post and one on top, please.

 

bimathug I really love the NBA CBA stuff and particulars which u seem to with ur threads etc etc...but ur wrong on this one it seems:

From John Hollinger's ESPN Chat:

What we can do is do a sign and trade for a star like with Toronto with Chris Bosh cos Colangelo doesn't want to let him go for nothing...and if we do that we'll be over the cap...that gives us the chance to use our exceptions such as the MLE.

And I think your point about us not being able to sign a max FA in 2010 is gonna be incorrect in a few weeks...watch for Battier to be traded.

Battier for Marvin Williams + David Andersen!!!

 

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