So MS essentially kills off the 'Vista' brand already as word of '7' spreads. They will basically validate all the haters (despite the fact that it's still Vista under the hood). A shame. Vista had problems, but also got a lot of unfair shakes. Just a botched job all the way around. Still, I like a lot of what I'm hearing/seeing about 7. I haven't got in on the beta yet but my boss should be getting one soon. Looking forward to it. Whatever you decide to go with, don't go as 'cheap' as you can. Try to at least spend as much as your budget allows. You aren't doing yourself any favors on the Windows side either if you don't give it the resources it needs to run smoothly.
Good point about resources. I shouldn't be trying to run half of what I try to run on this outdated machine. Big mistake was putting Office 07 on here. I pretty much had to sacrifice a messenger program and Outlook as this computer couldn't run them with my 20-30+ tabs open in firefox simultaneously. I'd like to get something that's fairly mobile and can smoothly run a messenger program, Skype, firefox, Outlook, and occasionally Word, a video/DVD, or Photoshop -- all at the same time without lag. Pretty much anything I get these days would be a fantastic upgrade from this crap. My budget would be up to about $1000. I can probably find something decent enough for $600-$700 that will satisfy my needs. But I don't want to have it randomly crash on me (like my buddy's Tosh!tba and Compaq). I might just put $400-$600 into a tower and cheap monitor, but I'd prefer the mobility. My brother just got the new Macbook and loves it. I tried using them a couple times at the Apple store and I'll be honest, for someone who is used to doing things the Windows way (the "hard" way), I didn't care for layout of the OSX as much. Plus I like my right click. Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Careful, Pizza doesn't like the A-word. you can right click on OSX, just not with their mice. One of their sillier quirks. As for vista, I agree with Rokkit, it had issues, but got a bad rap as much as anything, though not just from the competitor(s). Just call that an expensive beta for win7, I guess. It happens. Hard to keep such a large client base happy across the boards while building innovative momentum, especially with so much third party hardware already in the market that was made while previous OS's were prevalent.
Windows 7 is really Windows Vista R2. It's not a new OS; just Vista refined. They are doing the same thing with Windows Server 2008. The next version will be Windows Server 2008 R2 and, I think, the codename for Windows Server 2008 R2 was Windows 7! They just kept the Windows 7 name for the official release of the desktop version of the OS. They did the same thing with XP (only they called is SP2 back then and there were not as many UI changes) and Server 2003 (released an R2 version). Apple computers work really well and are very well engineered but you can't go buy the OS and put it on any hardware you want. You can't buy the pieces and design your own, personal gaming machine and, until recently, backwards compatibility was not something Apple paid much attention to. I have a friend with a Mac and he wanted to upgrade his video card. His options were limited and expensive but the upgrade was easy and it just worked. Whenever you design a specific piece of software to run on a specific set of hardware you are ALWAYS going to have better stability and reliability at the expense of customability (is that a word?). Windows has to work on an infinite combination of hardware (new and old) and with a huge variety of software written by who knows what. I'm actually amazed that Windows works as well as it does but that flexibility allows people able to by new Desktop PCs for $500 (as discussed in another thread) or things like Netbooks. You don't have nearly the variety in the Mac world.
So it took almost 2 years for Vista to be released after it came out of Beta. The same for Windows 7?
Then why ask it? It's not much of one, yes it comes in different editions, unfortunately Microsoft doesn't take the one size fits none approach that apple does. As for Vista, a lot of the features from 7 will come to Vista in SP2. Vista is far from dead and will still have support for another two years minimum. I love that people think Vista is dead because of 7, false correlation but whatever. I'd say get something in the netbook family. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147673 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220386 They are really mobile and fast. As for 7, I'm running 7 on my Asus netbook (the one I suggested has an Nvidea Gfx card, mine is just intel on board) runs pretty awesomely. Plus, in buying a netbook you save a little and you could always get 7 when it just comes out. Also! If you know a student, try and buy from HP direct, there Student/Educator discount is pretty nice. On my atom core on balanced mode I get 6.5 hours, on power saver I get 8, and high performance 5.
Because one of the terribad things about Vista, and even previous MS OS', was their seeming love affair with tons of unnessecary "editions" that pretty much borderlined on ridiculous.
To each their own I guess, but it's rediculous to say that all users demand the same thing as the rest. If you are gonna run Vista at a bussiness, why would you need Media Center, or extra codec support, or anything of the sort. Even if you're in graphic design, it's still not necessary. Microsoft offers a lot of features, but some people don't need them. Personally I think it's easier to install and then uninstall what isn't necessary, but to do that 20 or 30 times would be a pain. I like Microsoft, make no quams about it, but working for them, hell no. I won't go back to computer and processor design, no way no how. I just know the ins and outs of this stuff because it's fun to do on the side.
Completely agree. Im tired of being forced to buy a new operating system every couple years. Its time to start simplifying OS's, not make them more complicated. It would be nice to start modulating operating systems. I don't use 1/2 the crap on Vista.
i made the switch to the macbook after an eternity w/ pc's and am loving it so far. and you can still right click on the mouse pad, which is infinitely more responsive than any other laptop touch pad i've ever used.
Did you have a problem with it when Microsoft had Windows 98 and Windows NT? That's basically what they are doing now except everything is named Windows Vista Home and Business. The difference now is that everyone hears about the different flavors versus the vast majority in the past having no idea that NT existed except maybe at work. Some people's computers cannot handle all of the extras that certain versions have and do not have. Some people do not need or want all of the functionality that is available. If they don't need or want it, why make them pay for it? I've never heard where having more options is a negative,
Yeah, Apple never does that to its users All markets do it, Apple is notorious about doing it, far more than Microsoft has ever been. As for simplification, why? Computers can do more and more as time progresses, why hold them back? I don't think 7 or even Vista is that complicated, but whatever.
How many flavors, versions, generations, etc of the iPod have we had? It isn't like Apple is immune to it.
