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Will Yao fit in the new system?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RyanB, Nov 7, 2009.

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  1. tinywang

    tinywang Member

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    I agree with everything you said but at the same time, building around Yao wasn't THAT bad was it?

    Our record was damn good in the past few years and the only reason we couldn't advance that far into the playoffs is because of the these damn injuries of our superstars. I will say, however, that we relied on Yao way to much and his impact was greatly felt once he was off the court.
     
  2. MourningWood

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    I know I'm going to take some heat for saying this, but...

    I'd like to see Morey part ways with Yao Ming, as well as Tracy McGrady and Shane Battier, and start with a clean slate. Yao's future is still uncertain, as he can walk after this season, or the Rockets can re-sign him to a multi-year deal, but McGrady and Battier serve as enticing pieces to legitimate contenders across the league in need of a strong defensive presence on the wing (Battier) or increased offensive output off of the bench (McGrady) for a title run. Yao's very fragile, and he's slowly been deteriorating. He's suffered multiple, nagging injuries in his left foot and his scoring has declined over the last 3-4 years. He's one of the teams best FT shooters, but he's very hesitant in pressure situations and rarely asserts himself late in games. He doesn't utilize his brute strength and size enough, and he's very clumsy around the basket. But, he's been a staple in Houston, I respect his character and work ethic, and he's led the team to multiple playoff appearances, including a 2nd round matchup with LAL this past season, but the injury problems are a recurring story. I believe Yao's day has passed, and injuries and age are going to prevent him from returning to elite form ('05-'07).

    Ariza, Brooks, Landry, Budinger, and Scola (he's already 29, but only in his 3rd year in the league) form a trophy-worthy supporting cast, and Morey could use the coin that came off of the books to bring in an All-Star caliber scorer (Chris Bosh, Joe Johnson, Dwayne Wade), or, we may happen to acquire a talented player in a package deal during the current season (Kevin Martin), and Morey could bring in an athletic, scoring big to run the floor and compliment him (Bosh, Stoudemire). Brooks, Martin, Ariza, Scola, Bosh (Landry and Budinger first off of the bench) would contend with anyone out West.
     
  3. rockets119

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    you don't have to be yao's biggest fan to know he's not the guy to build the team around. 4 season ending surgeries in the last 4 years, i will leave it at that.

    dalembert the player, the skillset, the athleticism will help this team more than yao, no one is talking about his contract
     
  4. dexkk

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    the system will adjust come playoffs. Games get slower during playoffs imo because teams play harder on defense and has better defensive assignments in a 7-game series. When our offense starts to fall apart, you need an anchor down low that can hit high percentage fgs to bring the team back alive.

    also, adelman's motion offense is fine with Yao. You don't need 6'9 centers to run a motion offense. If Sac had Divac who smokes cigs like no other as their center, Yao should be fine.
     
  5. rockets119

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    you have to remember Vlade was mobile..
    think about how slow yao was even before his never-ending surgeries.
    yao was the guy to build around during the JVG days, not today
     
  6. rockets2

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    Divac was very agile for a big man. he ran the lanes great as trailor and sometimes with the ball. he was also a terrefic passer maybe 2nd to only sabonis in history. chalk and cheese.
     
  7. MrButtocks

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    Would you rather build around Yao Ming or Aaron Brooks? If you want to trade Yao for another star I can understand. But wanting to trade him for lesser talent just because they fit in is silly. He's our franchise player. You build teams around talent.

    Look at Philly. Iverson was always a problem child, but they built around him and got to the finals. They now have a more balanced team based on lesser talent and are an average team.

    Yao may not be a perfect fit for this system, but I'd rather see how far he can take us than Brooks or Ariza.
     
  8. MightyMog

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    let's take Yai out of the topic because I really don't care.

    But Dalembert.....like I said go easy on the crack pipe. I rather stick with Hayes as the starting center for the next 5 years.

    Your the only person, who I know would like Dalembert. At least say Camby...the hate goes deep.
     
  9. rockets119

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    camby definitely is an upgrade over yao or hayes, eve at the age of 35
    i can't understand how you have so much faith in yao, he's done
    by the way, you don't need to stop stressing how you could care less about people criticizing yao
    no one's accusing you of being a yao only fan.. even if you are one lol
     
  10. ibm

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    who? marcus "glass" camby? your insight is truly amazing.
     
  11. mFt82

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    Since I do not have the ability to start a new thread I figured I would add this info here since it concerns the "new system" and because it concerns the issue with the center position.

    Diop has been on a DNP for Charlotte this whole season thus far. The coach, Larry Brown, has been unhappy with his performance and so Diop's trade value is EXTREMELY low. I remember him playing for Dallas a season or two ago and he looked pretty decent. What do you think about the possibility of making a move to acquire him to alleviate the less tall houston rockets down under?
     
  12. rockets119

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    and you have yao ming getting dunked on by scrubs on any team, blocked by a 5-5, and requires season ending surgery every year, mind come up w/ a nickname for him

    I mean, we're doing just fine on both ends without yao right
    in fact, our D looks great.
    sure we might have trouble against those 3 or 4 teams with the traditional centers, but we won't be playing 4-5s on D like before with yao.
    all those carlos boozer, andrea barganani, troy murphey, amare, (the list goes on) jumpers all night long... forget it
    what we need a long athletic interior presence ,yea marcus "glass" camby
    i'd take his 10 pts, 14 rb and 3 blks over yao's 20 points anyday. i'd even take sam dalembert over yao at this point..
    you then turn tmac into say a kevin martin (unlikely gossip from the other thread), rockets would be good to go
     
  13. rockets119

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    we're not building around aaron brooks
    ariza maybe, he has some potential
    but right now,we're building around with ball movement and great team defense
    as for yao, he's been "leading" us the for 7 years.. works hard but not good enough. not a leader also.. soft.
    he can come back and contribute, but not someone you would build your team around
     
  14. MandM's

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    hey t-mac get off the board. your bs is getting old
     
  15. Seth

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    I meant less talented not a lesser talent.
    I was referring to tradin Yao for example for someone like Bosh. Sure, he is less talented than Yao (in my view) but will fit in better.
     
  16. MightyMog

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    are you Rockets119??????

    My post was referring to him.
     
  17. rockets119

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    bosh less talented than yao :eek:
    why do you think that

    bosh definitely is not elite thou, won't be a good trade. he holds on to the balls too much and needs the ball to be effective anyways.. i rather someone like gasol
     
  18. rockets119

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    some people need to start accepting the fact that yao's days as an offensive weapon is over
    why is it so hard to see, 4 surgeries in 4 years. do you really expect him to come back next year healthy? its possible but i won't bet on it
    you can move on to Yi your new hero, he's also from your from
     
  19. MightyMog

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    Okay so you want Dalembert....and you don't want Bosh but Gasol is Elite....screw it you can call me a YOF(Now a Yi Fan) but at least I know I am not an idiot 100% of the time.

    Ignored
     
  20. rockets119

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    haha
    all you look at is individual stats, such as bosh vs gasol, instead of whether he'd be a good fit with the rockets or not
    you obvious have never thought about how bosh's game will mesh with our bigs
    thanks for the personal attack by the way.. real mature of you
    you seem to be ashamed of being a yao ming only fan
    there's nothing wrong with it i don't think
     

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