will there be anymore tropical systems to hit houston?

Watch the sweeping generalizations of New Yorkers, please.

not EVERY typical Yankee is uninformed about hurricanes.
ask me where I was during Hurricane Alicia.


Now Can't we all just get along?

Lets get to the bottom of this,Stevie Francis:

God Promises 'Big Surprises' In Store For Hurricane Season

HOLLYWOOD, FL—The 2002 hurricane season will be packed with "big surprises, big windspeeds, and a big, big finish," God announced Monday at a press conference touting His fall schedule.

"Get ready for the biggest, wildest, most exciting hurricane season yet," God said. "You'll see all the 200 mph winds, all the flooding, all the overturned cars. As for what else you'll see—well, you'll just have to wait and see."

Though hurricane season officially began in June, God has not yet released any major storms in the Pacific or Atlantic theaters. A press release sent to the media by Benediction/Holmes-Morgan, the Lord's public-relations agency, did drop a few tidbits on what to expect in the coming months.

"As God enters His landmark 23,450,750th hurricane season, He finds Himself dealing with a larger and more diversified audience," the statement read in part. "With that in mind, He's promised that something new is 'in the wind' this year. Expect God to take the hurricane to places it's never been, bringing it to whole new audiences, making inroads further into the tornado-minded Gulf Coast states, and still delivering the goods to the hip, urban, coastal crowd that's traditionally so crazy about them."

Hurricanes form when God maketh ocean water in equatorial regions warmer than average, causing warm air to rise and spiral inward and upward in a counter-clockwise direction, an effect amplified by the Earth's Coriolis forces.

God promised not to forget longtime fans, noting that the Southeast would be the location of some of the season's biggest hits.

"I'm not naming names," said the Archangel Ioniel, Guide of the Change and co-producer of 1992's Hurricane Andrew, which did more than $20 billion in damage to South Florida. "It'd be a shame to ruin the Big Guy's party. But let's just say Florida is still number one, and the residents of a certain sleepy Georgia coastal town are in for the meteorological sequel of the summer."

God's announcement sparked strong buzz among meteorologists and other weather watchers.

"We're already lining up for this next one," said Col. Jeff Esser, commander of the 105th Battalion of the North Carolina National Guard. "We figure response will need to be huge, and we're traditionally the first in the Atlantic theater of operations. I have a feeling we're each going to be seeing this one a few times."

"Two thumbs up! I loved it!" said a soaking-wet Al Roker after God treated him to a special preview of the 2002 season. "Batten down the hatches, America. This one's gonna blow your whole family away!"

Roker was then rushed to a Miami hospital, where he was treated for hypothermia and water inhalation.

In addition to putting up significant domestic numbers, the hurricane season is expected to make a major impact in foreign markets.

"Japan is always big for us," Ioniel said. "Brazil, too. We even have a following in Canada. And this year, we're looking to gain a foothold in traditionally large tourist markets, including the Bahamas, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Jamaica. Add that to our not-inconsiderable Central American casualties, and we're making a killing almost as big as our domestic totals."

"This year, it's about more than just doing big numbers on the Saffir/Simpson Hurricane Damage Potential scale," God continued. "It's about more than 18-foot wave surges and 60-foot yachts being blown miles inland. This year, it's about the whole experience. We're going to be taking people directly into the eye of the storm. And when we're done, people will feel like they truly know hurricanes inside-out."

Asked whether the season would be more remarkable for the hurricanes' frequency or size, God was evasive.

"I don't have to tell you," God said. "But I will say this: Those weak, cerebral 'tropical depressions' are very five minutes ago. This season, it'll be devastating. Thus sayeth the Lord."

 

Don't count on it. I lived in Houston for over 30 years. I believe that since records started being kept, Harris County has reported more tornadoes than any other in the United States. I have been through a number of hurricanes and bad storms. Not once did I see a tornado. I have lived in Minnesota for the past 10 years. I live in whats known as 'tornado alley', yet, again, I have never seen a tornado. Personally, I hope my streak continues.

 

Hi. I've got a few thoughts on the subject (Or "storm of controversy", if you will.). My Grandmother was IN the 1900 storm. She was 5 or 6 years old and living in the Houston Heights (back when it was just "The Heights" and it's own little town outside of Houston) when the storm hit. A lot of people forget that it roared through Galveston and then struck the Houston area.

She lived in a wood frame house on blocks with my Great-Grandparents and several brothers and sisters. She told me that the wind was howling and screaming, that the house shook like crazy, and that when water started coming into the house, they got VERY worried. (I'm sure that's a bit of an understatement)

When the house began to move, they got even more concerned. There were probably about a dozen people in the place, or more. Almost all relatives of mine. She said she sat on a bed and watched the water swirl around the floor as the house drunkenly started floating. When the storm and flood had passed, the house was a couple of blocks down the street! (practical people, they moved it back, lol!)

She thought they were very lucky, especially after word got out that Galveston had been destroyed. Her father bought a book, "The Great Galveston Disaster", that came out as soon as they could publish it. It sits on a bookshelf at my Mom's. (In my old bedroom, in Houston. My Grandmother gave it to me)

It's full of photographs of Galveston, before and mostly after, the storm. There are photos of barges with hundreds of bodies on them, getting ready to be towed out into the Gulf. They dumped them into the water and, thankfully, most of them didn't float back. Galveston itself looked like Hiroshima after the bomb... the only difference being the matchsticks piled around. The city, to this day, has never recovered.

I went through Hurricane Carla when I was about 10. We went to the movies at the Santa Rosa Theater, in southeast Houston, because my Dad loved movies (we went 2 or 3 times a week) and didn't think things were that bad. I guess they weren't as bad as they COULD have been for us. When we got back, a large tree had fallen in our front yard and crashed into my bedroom. Needless to say, we were a bit surprised!

Hope this was a little interesting for some of you. Houston has yet to get a really big storm... something akin to Camille or the Galveston storm. Not since these many millions of people have moved here. Be aware of that. Don't ever be complacent. IMHO.

 

down on one of the piers near the Strand in Galveston is a little museum dedicated to the great storm of 1900...they have a film on the topic...if you get a chance, check it out...just amazing how much the island suffered, and never really recovered from.

 

VOR: Let's be really clear. This is what you originally said...

This is an extremely, "oh, well" attitude. It may not seem like a big deal to you, but "don't be an idiot?" You realize the chances of being hit by a tornado or even a hurricane are fairly remote, right? Don't be and idiot and ski if you don't want to be hit by a landslide. Don't be an idiot and get on a plane if you don't want it to crash.

Just because it COULD happen doesn't make people idiots for choosing to live in a place that has a 1 in 500,000 chance or greater of being destroyed by mother nature.

I find your "you should know better so don't complain" attitude to be indicative of someone who has never had to suffer through anything like that in your life. It sounds like you not only don't feel compassion for those who have suffered, you don't respect the sanctity of life enough to care. You may very well feel compassion and have respect for life, but this post wasn't a good reflection of it.

Again, this just sounds like someone who has never suffered or lost anything dear to him. I guess we should just tell those people who lost the homes their father's built who now have to live in an efficiency with their three kids because they had no insurance and lost everything to "just deal." Right?

It is incredibly easy to tell people what to do or what they should have done.

I know the eventualities of mother nature as well as anyone. I respect nature a great deal and understand the ramifications of the problem. When people who built their houses in the middle of a forest and then had them lost to wildfires this summer, I recognized that, in some ways, mother nature was reclaiming itself. Where those fires burned, new, healthier foliage will grow in its place.

But, by no means did I not feel for those people who watched their lives go up in smoke. I never thought, "Oh, well. Tough ****. Deal with it."

I don't have a problem with you looking at the reality of life. I agree with you. Too often, people ignore reality in favor of something else. However, to have the cavalier attitude about the suffering that it can cause is what bothers me.

Ignoring that suffering is as bad as ignoring reality.

 

I've seen it and would recommend it. They don't show how gruesome things were in the aftermath. I guess it's rated PG or something. I wouldn't want my kids to see some of the photographs that are out there. (and in that book)

(In response to MadMax's post about the 1900 Storm film at the Strand in Galveston.
It's terrible what happened to your family, Jeff. We are missing things that could have been passed down the generations. I feel for your grandparents.)

 

Present company excluded, of course, across110.

But in the 39 years I have lived here, I have yet to come across a "northerner" who didn't describe a hurricane as "a bunch of wind and rain".

That's like saying World War II was "just a border dispute".

 

Behad,

Thanks for the story, but I'm not sure if that's the one. I saw it on a documentary, and I cannot recall whether it was Camille or Carla. One thing I distinctly recall, is that it was a single home, they were actually partying, and the walls were concrete (they even showed the bent-over rebar that had supported the walls).

 

Geeze, sorry to drag this subject back to the top, but they seem to get buried so fast these days. I wanted to reply to so many of the things posted in here about my post, and even more so about me.


Jeff, It is not that I have a cavalier attitude toward the suffering, I read the first post in here as to say, besides all the bad stuff that happens storms are cool. following that I read several posts saying. boo you suck, I know someone that lost cars houses etc. The suffering in my life, the losses I have experienced are really in tow with averages. I have incurred (relatively) huge financial losses that were out of my hands, I have seen death first hand I have lost close friends. I have definately stated that the value of the human loss is all that matters because of the experiences in my life. hell, memories dont die when pictures are ruined, sure they symbolize the loss associated with the tradgedy. I understand that. and yes grandma wont be able to show those pictures with grand daughter, or generations later, that is sad. sure the house where you measure your growth on the wall as a kid is now gone, that is sad too. the tree you used to learn to climb, or had your first little kid kiss in, whatever. these things hurt, but you still have the most important part. YOUR GRANDMA. when you lose that, all you will need is one picture of her, and all the lost ones forgotten as an "I wish I had, but" I hope you understand what I am trying to say here

additionally I want to clear this up specifically for you Jeff, I said that you are an idiot if you build on a VOLCANO, FAULT or FLOOD., but if you want the water view be prepared, and understand where you live.

I called the volcano and earthguake people idiots, and the morons who scamper to the edges of the yellow river in China (the single deadliest feature on the planet). not your grandparents, or the 70% of the worlds population that live near the coast. but just know the situation. we are not the bosses here, and **** happens


"Ignorant yankee"
boy thats cute. I know I dont have to defend anything, however I have to say that terms like ignorant Yankee are probably more of an indication of your ignorance than anything else. My knowlege of tropical systems is quite extensive. mt experiences both practical as well as instructional. I have experienced 3 direct Hurricanes, and something like 4 good grazings. I live on the easter most end of Long Island. a very well protected part of this Hurricant target, but a target just the same. I am not ignorant about hurricanes, I am not a Yankee Either. I can only assume Yankee is comeback to the word hick, as I do not have my Texas thesaurus. If a storm is forecast, I fill the bathtub as well as many buckets etc with water, I go tree trimming, I tie things down, I cover/tape windows depending on severity. I have yet to evacuate as I live in a town that is actually called shelter Island. we are spared a great deal thanks to the million dollar homes in Southampton taking the brunt of it on dune road.

Behad, I am a little suprised with you honestly. you know better.

Cohen, I have no Idea what to reply to you other than that you are clearly an angry human being. you are also a literal person, and so you will likely never understand what I am typing in my posts. I am unfortunately(on here anyways) not a writer, I am an orator capable of extemporanius speach that is both concise and informed. I type 10 times slower than my brain functions, while I speak only maybe 2 times slower than the brain. If you want to debate what I have writen, or need be to validify my responces herin, you may e-mail me at micahkerr@yahoo.com
that goes for any one else here as well.

Pole, you know me pretty well. thanks for getting it

PEACE

 

Whoa...when did I use the term "ignorant"? My post in it's entirety:

Uninformed does not equate to ignorant. I gave an honest answer...you did sound like a "typical" yankee, at least the ones I have discussed hurricanes with.

Also, a little research shows that New England has experienced only 3 landfalls of hurricanes since 1960: Belle, 1976, Gloria, 1985, and Bob, 1991. None of the 3 were stronger than catagory 2.

From the NOAA website:

 

Originally posted by The Voice of Reason
...Cohen, I have no Idea what to reply to you other than that you are clearly an angry human being.

I get very angry at people who lack empathy for others, and do it with an arrogant flare, yes.

you are also a literal person,

I found that to be most helpful in this medium, but my literal nature is either not uncommon or irrelevant since others appear to have interpreted your post in the same fashion.

and so you will likely never understand what I am typing in my posts. I am unfortunately(on here anyways) not a writer, I am an orator capable of extemporanius speach that is both concise and informed.

'Extemporaneous' may be a positive in speech, but not in writing.

I type 10 times slower than my brain functions, while I speak only maybe 2 times slower than the brain.

Then your wordsmithing should be a little more deliberate than it is, since it appears that what you feel and what you wrote may differ greatly.

If you want to debate what I have writen, or need be to validify my responces herin, you may e-mail me at micahkerr@yahoo.com
that goes for any one else here as well.

I have no need to debate you. You admit that your wordsmithing may be sub-par, yet you still seem to blame others for what may be a misunderstanding. None of the people who responded similarly to your post are dolts...maybe you should be a little more careful about how you put your ideas in black-and-white. Your last post was an improvement.

A little more perspective for you on my response, I understand how many very young adults post and read here, present thread not excluded. If I read a post that on the surface is quite wrong, I will often do something to remedy. I do not consider myself the 'post police', I just remain aware.

 

we also got wacked by Hugo.

there was a storm that blew through just a few years ago, but it weakend to tropical storm strength before it hit, I forget the name. I lived in Rhode Island for a while too, and we got grazed alot that one busy fall (1998 I think)

you see the track that went right across the middle of ling Island?? that was our Galvaston. thankfully no one lived on the barrier Islands back then. A catagory 4 it completely eroded some of the barrier Islands (which have since re built themselves) that are now covered with homes.