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Will there be a serious attempt to assassinate Obama before election day?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by texanskan, Oct 20, 2008.

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Will someone or some group try to kill Obama before election day?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    71.8%
  1. Batman Jones

    Batman Jones Member

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    If you keep talking, you could actually be the first poster in D&D history to be banned for just being dumb.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Actually CaseyH is right on this (although I think it is a small matter). The article says:

    "John F. Kennedy

    Only JFK spent an entire term in office without his approval rating dropping below 50%. At one point, his highest rating was 80%."

    JFK did not spend an entire term in office, so the facts of the article are incorrect technically.

    The data is shallow unfortunately. Isn't this a bit like saying I played a round of golf and my putts per green ranged from 1 to 3...

    The meaningful issue is how many were 1-putts and how many were 3-putts. It's the difference between a 67 and a 75.

    It also matters if I'm playing August or some municipal course.

    Likewise, other factors come into play for these presidents: war and economy for example. GWB was dealt a crappy hand by history while Kennedy got to stare down the Russians during the Cuban Missile Crisis. That may have been his high while the Bay of Pigs may have been his low... I wonder. :confused:
     
  3. Batman Jones

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    Good point, giddy. I guess JFK was just luckier than W. (Um, LOL.)

    Casey's still an ass though.
     
  4. giddyup

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    JFK got Marilyn...
     
  5. Dubious

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    delete

    (Why even bother to respond to Casey)
     
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  6. SamFisher

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    Why is it not surprising to see giddy-up take the stinking entrails of a losing argument and smear them on his folksy person.


    Well, anyway, he's dead wrong - and so are you.

    Please look at the graphical material provided as well as the 4 empirical data sources that I have highlighted for you, which cumulatively provide the complete picture of his approval rating as president. By almost any statistical measure (mean, median, leaving office), JFK was among the most popular presidents in modern history while alive - meaning that a statement that he "wasn't very popular" when he was alive is....dead wrong - and so are you.

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  7. giddyup

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    Oh, King of the Mountain (of his own Crap), I was only referring to Casey's point that Kennedy did not serve a full-term. Look at sentence #4 in my reply which cited his remark. This factual error made by the author of the link you provided gives CaseyH pause in considering the rest of his facts... which I think is reasonable.

    The more interesting statistic is that it would appear that the president with the most dramatic approval ratings was Bill Clinton while Ford ended his term on a small upswing after a decided downturn (pardoning Nixon?) and so did Bush41 and Reagan... but Clinton is the clear winner in this consideration.

    JFK did not serve a full term and while garnering over 50% approval rating for his entire presidency (again not a full term) there is an obvious trend downwards.

    I would love to see a study down of the tremendous upside in Clinton's approval ratings and the decided downward trends in same for GWB in light of the growth of the information age and the dominance of that medium by young people.

    One more time: JFK did not serve a full term! Got it, SF?
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    What's interesting is that Clinton's approval rating stayed above 50 percent the entire second term even with all his issues. Clinton was a once in a lifetime president in regards to the combination of his intelligence and ability to connect with almost anyone other than the ultra right wing.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    You're certainly correct on that point. Congrats. Of course it doesn't do much to help the point that I took great pleasure in disproving.
     
  10. DreamRoxCoogFan

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    good god, I hope not.
     
  11. Ashes

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    Pot meet kettle?
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    seriously man if you live in houston I will buy you a beer after the elctrion when you are calmed down.
     
  13. giddyup

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    I had no interest in disproving your point. I was just pointing up the mis-statement of fact that CaseyH cited which you completely overlooked. In fact you completely overlooked my assertion of that too in your headlong rush to be right about something that I was not disagreeing with. Congratulations!
     
  14. MadMax

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    the premise of this thread is deeply disturbing. in a "should we be talking about this?" sort of way.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    Actually no, you pointed up a semantic ambiguity which hinges on whether you modify "entire term" with "an" or "his" that is utterly irrelevant to the falsity of the underlying argument vis-a-vis the popularity of JFK while in office which is ovewhelmingly demonstrated by the data set provided.

    The fact remains that he was busted spouting a demonstrably incorrect hypothesis, roundly flogged by a substantial amount of empirical data, and then decisively embarrassed by one of the internet's reigning champions as a consequence. It happens, my friend. :)
     
  16. MadMax

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    stay thirsty
     
  17. plutoblue11

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    Why would anybody want to kill Obama? Is he really that much of threat to anyone...he looks like the standard democractic president to me?

    I could see someone, like Ron Paul or Ralph Nader more so being assassinated.
     
  18. Ikorose

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    I think we've come too far for that.

    I won't say before election day, but I strongly believe if he's elected there will be one. They're still ignorant racist supremists who will not stand for having a black man as their leader, simple as that.

    Nobody wants to admit this, but fact is that there will be thousands of people voting against him just because he's black. It's all about his race. If he was white, this topic won't exist. For over a year now I've had talks with friends about the possibility of Obama being elected and the chances of an assassination attempt taking place. I just know that if anything happens to him the black community will look at it as a set-up. People will say otherwise, but its the hard truth.

    It will be as bad if not worse than it was in the early to mid 1900's. There will be heavy rioting among races. This time around you will hear about white people being raped and lynched. It's gonna be a turn for the very worst and will result in the downfall of the greatest nation.
     
  19. juicystream

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    I don't think Obama is more likely than any other president to be killed. They shot at Reagan who dominated his election, they don't shoot at Bush, who many people hate. There is little reason for assassination attempts. Lincoln is the only one that seemed motivated by something.

    Most racist will just voice their displeasure over having a black person in office. There will be racial slurs and actions, but I believe Obama will not be assassinated.
     
  20. MadMax

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    This post belongs in the one about the NWO.

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