Wasn't it the Blazers who cut Padgett this past fall? I doubt they would pay to get him back. I could live with Cat for Artest but I'm not eager to pull that trigger. I'd even do the Franchise one. Tired of waiting. I'd rather move one of our PFs though and get back someone instead of another guard in Crawford.
ha? i'll give you two reasons why Portland would reject such a outlandish and realistic offer. 1 on talent and value Blazers get screwd 2 the blazers would rather let Rasheeds 17 million salary come off the books rather then take on MO T multi year contract.
Cato is not going anywhere. JVG praises him all the time. Cato has proven that he is a great backup at center and a good backup at PF.
person i think to go next is probably steve. They will probably give him another month or so to see if he comes around. Other than that if he dont im sure we could get a good point guard and power forward in return for him. Dont know why cuttino would be traded at this point; without his offense we would be lossing.
I agree that Cato is not going anywhere. Given a guess, I'd also say that Steve would be the one to go rather than Cat. Cat will lose his quickness over time, like Steve, but Cat has shown his adaptability and plays good defense. Steve is trying, but I think deep down he is resentful, and feels constricted. Certainly he is choking on that new max contract. He would show his worthiness of it, perhaps, with a more open-style (re: hands-off) coach. I never thought it would come to this: praising Cat and Cato. When Cato tweaked his ankle against Denver, and limped off cursing to the locker room, you could almost read his lips: F*** this, we're gonna tape this thing, I'm playing. If we could deal Steve and Mo and get back, say, McInnis and SAR type players, I'd be all for it. I don't know if we'd be players for Sheed because we don't have expiring contracts; and my idea for an expiring contract to send to Portland would be McDyess + the NY 2004 first rounder. Seems that Isiah has eyes for Sheed as well though.
I swear SJC, when I think about the criticism you give trade threads, and then you put up those 3 trades, it makes me wonder if you just critisize trade threads for the hell of it. However, if you're being sarcastic with your trades, I didn't detect it.
Uhuh. None of my deals beat taking back one max player who had 4 surgeries on his ankle, and is opting for a fifth, as well as another MAX player who has played over a year with back pain despite trying every single form of rehab known to man. For this, let's give up Cato and MoT without getting anyone over 6'7 back, especially since trading them doesn't help us financially, since we'd be getting 2 MAX contracts back. Then let's start Wilks at PG, Weatherspoon at PF, and our choice of Pike or a still-injured Adrian Griffin at SF. Ofcourse, all of this is done with McGrady in the line-up with back pain and our whole season depending on him, meaning we absolutely LOSE every game we play without him, and he has no backup, so he can't rest, and if he has surgery to get healthy, he'll miss the season, we'll be in the lottery, and we'll have to re-sign him to the MAX again just one season after major back surgery (and he wont play the beginning of that season either). Jeez, why didn't anyone ELSE think of that?
So you are saying Taylor and Cato are the difference between winning and LOSING every game? Because that is what you are implying with your insane post . Don't try to argue with me, play in your league.
You're taking Cato, Taylor, Mobley + JJ and replacing them with Tracy McGrady. You're saying the McGrady WON'T be more essectial to winning now that Weatherspoon/Wilks/Pike are main contributors rather than Cato/MoT/Mobley? Please. it was a nice try nitpicking at that one spot, but it still didn't work. Your trade idea is horrible. You know it. There's no way this team would be succesful with this line-up: Yao/???? Weatherspoon/??? Pike/ Ag if he ever gets back/???? McGrady/??? Francis/Wilks It doesn't even meet the minimum requirements of the NBA. We'd have to sign 3 or more people I believe, with each one counting double since it would send us into luxury tax territory.
Wait. Just to make this crystal clear: You are saying you would rather have Cato, Taylor, Mobley and JJ than Tracy McGrady. Did I understand you correctly?
I'm saying NBA rules + Yao's fitness won't allow it. We would not be able to succeed, McGrady won't hold up playing 42 minutes all season, Yao can't play more than 35, and while Francis is capable of playing 42minutes for the season, it's definately not advisable for him to do so if we're going to be in the playoffs. If we were incredibly deep or got back Steven Hunter, Reece Gaines and Goran Giricek in the deal, then that would be a different story. Right now, any team that puts their future on Tracy McGrady is taking a HUGE HUGE risk. Also, don't EVEN make it sound like it's T-Mac for the 4 guys. You know as well as I do that Grant Hill is a handicap on the cap, and that has to be considered in the deal.
I think it is basically a difference in philosophy. I don't agree with you at all. My philosophy is, you go for the stars and then add spare parts around. In other words, what you just posted is all nonsense in my eyes because obviously we would add some minimum players that could ease the burden. I would rather have 35 min. T-Mac and 13 minutes minimum player (whoever) than 48 minutes of any of the players we would give up. Good players + decent players doesn't win you championships. Great players + spare parts possibly wins you a championship (see: Hakeem + Chucky etc.). Especially if the spare parts turn out to be better than expected (Sammy, Horry).
Yao/Oliver Miller or Jason Collier Weatherspoon/Alton Ford/Braggs/Chucky Brown Pike/ Ag/Juaquin Hawkins McGrady/Pike Francis/Wilks Do I think this would be a better team than our current team - especially once it attracts more good free agent role players at the SF/PF spot because they see a legitimate chance to win a championship with three superstars on the team? I absolutely do.
Call me weird but I have a new found fondness for Cato and Taylor and would hate to see either of them go unless we were offered something really good.
After reading all these posts and watching the Rox this season, the only players I would consider untouchable are Yao, Cato, and JJ. They are the main reasons the Rox are over .500. Whatever trades the Rox make, it should obviously be to build around Yao and keeping their 2 best role players (Cato and JJ) who compliment him. Switch out all the other parts that will compliment Yao more (Yao needs to be surrounded by players that can pass and move without the ball which the Rox really don't have now) and the Rox will be successful. That's what the Rox did with Hakeem, although it took them damn near 10 years to surround him with the right role players but it did result in 2 championships.
Arenas seems to be feuding bigtime with his coach. He did not start today. They don't have a good power forward, are too small and need some offensive firepower. Plus, when Stackhouse comes back, with Stackhouse and Hughes and Hayes, they would already have a very solid backcourt, even without Arenas, who has a five-year contract. How about: Houston trades: PF Maurice Taylor (11.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 27.2 minutes) PF Adrian Griffin (11.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 27.2 minutes) Houston receives: PG Gilbert Arenas (18.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.3 apg in 36.3 minutes) Change in team outlook: +7.6 ppg, -0.3 rpg, and +4.2 apg. Washington trades: PG Gilbert Arenas (18.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.3 apg in 36.3 minutes) Washington receives: PF Maurice Taylor (11.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 26 games) PF Adrian Griffin (11.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 26 games) Change in team outlook: -7.6 ppg, +0.3 rpg, and -4.2 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Due to Houston and Washington being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Washington had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis, Mobley, Arenas = super 3-guard rotation
