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Will the Rockets ever learn to run the 3 on 1?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by We're Back, May 23, 2003.

  1. We're Back

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    "fro" not "from"
     
  2. SLA

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    true very true.

    Fundamentals. And you still gotta have skill. And brains. And size. And athleticism. And understanding of the game.
     
  3. jopatmc

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    I agree. The first problem with the Rockets fast break is Stevie is down under the defending goal trying to get boards..............because he knows MoT and Eddie ain't gonna get 'em.

    So, the first thing we gotta get is a big banging, defending and rebounding 4 to be able to run the break!

    And then Stevie and Cat have to GET OUT and be in position for the outlet pass, preferrable Steve. Cat is much better on the wing.

    And then Stevie has to make the right decisions with the ball if he gets the outlet pass from that rebounding 4 and 5 that are crunching the boards!

    The part we really don't know about is if Steve is capable of running the point on the break. Because we get so few breaks off missed shots. Like someone said earlier, most of our breaks are because Posey or Cat stole the ball and are running the other way with it helter skelter.

    But, if Steve can't handle the point on the break, then we defenitely have to upgrade the 3 to a player that can run the break or change out Steve or Cat for a pure point that can run the break.

    It's really pretty simple. Our parts just don't mesh for running the break............or much else for that matter.

    A coach like Larry Brown would define the break. A coach like Van Gundy would define the defense. I'm not sure Van Gundy even knows what a fast break is though after watching the New York Demolition Derby while he was the coach. Watching the Knicks and Heat play while him and Riley were both coaching against each other has to be worse than watching paint dry. The ugliest possible game of basketball I've ever seen.

    That's why I think Brown would probably be a better answer here than Van Gundy right now. But there would have to be adjustments in the current player's game or else there would have to be a personnel adjustment. Instead of learning how to shoot a hook shot, MoT is gonna have to learn to box out and throw an outlet pass! And Steve is gonna have to learn to back out of the paint and get in position for the outlet pass!
     
  4. ChenZhen

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    This was my point EXACTLY. We are talking about the decision making on this thread and not talking about not getting enough fast break opportunities. So YOU are drifting off to a whole 'nother story'. Right?
     
  5. pradaxpimp

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    What are u talkin about 3 on 1. We do it all the time.

    1. Steve always drives into the paint and challenges three defenders

    2. Cat always pulls shoots a jumper w/three defenders on him

    Okay seriously. Another problem is when Someone else does get a rebound other than steve, or yao (not very often) Steve likes to run up to the person and have the ball fed to him. That is an opportunity for a pass.

    Steve Also never RUNS pass the halfcourt line. Everytime he does get an Errant 3 like Kidd, he puts on a dribbling exhibition and shows little kids at home what a between the legs and crossover are. First of all he needs to use his athleticism and streak down the court and maybe the others will soon follow.
     
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  6. iOrange

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    It's funny that we are trying to compare Steve with Kidd. That Jason Kidd guy is a freaking genius! He and Magic are two best point guards running fastbreak in the entire NBA history!

    Anyone else in your mind running fastbreaks like Kidd? Stockton, GP, Nash, Bibby? no body.

    Everybody in this league fears Mavs' fastbreak coz they shoot quick 3s. When Mavs play 3 on 1, 2 of their guys would stay behind the arc. Is this supposed to be a good fastbreak?

    My point is that you design plays based on the personnel. Steve's court vision is poor but he's a good rebounder and finisher. With this type of player, you let him go for the rebounds and drive to the baskets. However, when you have a 7'6" center taking care of the defensive rebounding, you better let your point guard run his ass off.
     

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