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Will the Rockets be able to keep Von?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 9, 2009.

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Will the Rockets be able to keep Von?

  1. Yes - Morey will pay up to the MLE for him

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  2. No - Other teams will pay more than the Rockets will be willing to pay

    104 vote(s)
    12.0%
  3. Maybe - As long as it is a reasonable contract (under $3 million)

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You are right, JR is indeed 6'6"......I still like Von better...he plays within our system.....


    DD
     
  2. yearning

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    Full MLE? You can't be serious. His performance worth 2M per year at the most.
    Check Matt Barnes's contract, you may find something interesting. :eek:
     
  3. Marcus Bryant

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    I wonder how much yao would be worth if Ron just deserves 2m/yr, btw check T-Mac's contract and you'll find it more interesting.
     
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    he's gotta do this in the playoffs and for another year. but he's playing superb right now. hope it continues.
     
  5. Lonestar

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    Scola is really cheap
     
  6. Lonestar

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    lol :D :D
     
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    Wow! We now understand you like Von better no matter what! But what is "plays within our system"? The injury of TMac has been the major reason why Von has his playing time, and all he has been doing is shooting or driving and nothing else. I admit that Von has done a great job in scoring for the rockets, and the rockets need his points, but next year either TMac or another superstar (from a TMac trade) is going to carry the scoring load so Von's role is not as important. Would Von still plays within our system?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    I guess that depends on whom we get, I am not saying he is indespensible, if we trade Tmac and get someone better, then great.

    DD
     
  9. waihh

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    Why don't you check out M Taylor, M Norris, C Kato's contracts and see how bad contracts devastate a team?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Oh come on.....any contract he gets is not going to devestate the team any worse than a $21 million this year and $23 million next year.

    Von will get market value, the only question is whether it is here or elsewhere.

    And for the record, all 3 of those "DEVESTATING" contracts were traded, and it was K. Cato....

    :D

    DD
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking. I like his passion and energy, hope he can do well on playoffs...
     
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    how is jr any different from von, jr's basically a more talented and better version of wafer... and they basically play the same role, which is scoring... so i don't know how one fits the system any more than the other.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    How is he more talented, they have nearly identical numbers.....? And JR plays with a much longer leash.

    And, FYI....JR is under contract.....already....so sort of irrelevant to this conversation.

    DD
     
  14. stillillmatic

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    JR is way more skilled than von, better handles, better shooting, and stronger and bigger... if that's not more talented i don't know what is.
    .... yea i know he's under contract, i'm just saying that i don't understand your reasons for liking wafer over jr when they are basically the same player, except one is just better.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    How is JR better exactly? He has no conscience and goes off occasionally, but his numbers suggest he is not as efficient as you are making him sound.

    He plays roughly 33% more minutes than Wafer, and if you adjust Wafer's stats up by 33% they are identical.

    And Wafer attacks the basket a lot more often, we need that on this team, whereas JR shoots a lot more 3s.....

    I just think Wafer fits better, and I don't think their talent is all that much different....

    JR is just more accomplished, but right now, they are producing at the same clip...

    DD
     
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    Throwing out numbers. 3 mil a year, 3 year deal. player option the 3rd year. 2.5 mil a year if its recession valued. Luther Head's team option when picked up was around 1.9 a year. So the Wafer "team option" could be a little more.

    Von Wafer's 1 handed dunks are JR Smith 2 hand dunks. Wafer is a tad quicker and underrated straight line speed. JR Smith is stronger. I like quickness and body control guys though. But JR Smith> Von Wafer though that's a fun matchup to watch in games.
     
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    i never even said he was a more efficient player, i only said he's a more talented player, and i believe majority of the people will agree with me that jr smith is a more talented player. plus, he's stronger and bigger, thus not nearly the defensive liability as wafer. there's a reason that wafer does't play as much as smith. deapth on the wing for the rockets is a reason, but also because he's simply not the player that jr is.
     
  18. Marcus Bryant

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    so is Les, which makes it uncertain to re-sign Ron.
     
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    I know JR Smith was drafted a year ahead of Von, but both are about the same age (JR is actually younger) but JR has learned how to play in the NBA faster and adjusted to it better therefore is an entrenched role player.

    Wafer, however, was basically a vagabond journeyman before the Rockets took a flyer on him, and now he is hinging the future of his NBA career and financial stability on how well he plays down the stretch and in the playoffs this year.

    If you subtract JR Smith's first year he has played 270 NBA games, Von has played 105 games. JR is way ahead of Von as far as being a known commodity in the NBA.
     
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    DD, all we need is V-Span!
     
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