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Will the New York Knicks match Jeremy Lin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by StevieCrossover, Jul 5, 2012.

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Will New York match Houston Rockets offer sheet?

Poll closed Jul 11, 2012.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. c1utchfan925

    c1utchfan925 Member

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    Pretty sure Lin is getting resigned, Overall if the Rockets wanted to sign Lin so badly they would have offered at least 12-14 million for the last two years being the last year a PLAYER option and not a team option. To be honest even though they're over the cap with 4/5 players that wont hurt them really until year 3 and and on the year after apparently Melo/Kidd/Chandler/Amare are all coming off the books and they can either choose to waive Lin if they want to (which I doubt they would anyways).

    Morey is just doing this to make money for Les, for every dollar the Knicks go over, they have to pay a luxury tax and that pool is spread out evenly to other opposing owners/teams. Morey and Les know this, not to mention I think I read on another thread that Morey is only really offering this deal to meet the minimum cap so that if anything we can absorb richardson or hedo in a trade with Howard.

    Talk about putting all our eggs in one basket huh? It's going to be a miracle if all of this works out, if not we're really going to be tanking.
     
  2. Sigmund

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    "I think the kid was great. The system helped him be really great. It's a wonderful story. But I look at him as a terrific backup in the NBA."

    Larry Brown about Jeremy Lin

    Thank God that Knicks will match.
     
  3. Tenchi

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    So from your logic the rest of the NBA teams should just sit there and twiddle their thumbs so NYK can set the price for Lin? If you wanna go to Prom with the hot girl then you gotta ask her out. Someone needed to step up and make a play and its not like anyone is screaming for Aaron Brooks or Ramon Sessions.

    And for all the people who are whining about this is a money move. So what? Its a business and people are supposed to make money. This is the game within the game. You can sit back and enjoy the match or keep coming up with the same old trite conspiracy theories.

    When Morey basically traded Rafer for Lowry everyone had a WTF face on them but Lowry turned out pretty well. So well in fact that everyone has a WTF face on them now that Lowry has been traded. So just let the man do his job. People aren't happy no matter what the Rockets do. People on this board would still complain even if we had Michael Jordan on the team wondering why it took him so long to win those championships.
     
  4. alcatrazpsycho

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    Could not the same be said of Sam Cassell, Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry, and Goran Dragic? Were they not terrific backups also in one point of their careers? I don't quite follow your point with that quote. Are you insinuating that Larry Brown holds the basketball gods' gavel?
     
  5. Sigmund

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    Lin could not get the ball across half court vs. Mario Chalmers, I could never say that about them.
     
  6. SacTown

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    It's official. Knicks are matching!
     
  7. Pete the Cheat

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    source?

    yes!!
     
  8. YallMean

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    Do you eat?
     
  9. SacTown

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    Twitter.
     
  10. Pete the Cheat

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    I just noticed your rep is still "Aaron Brooks"...hrrrmmmmm
     
  11. Pete the Cheat

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    and you are sure it wasnt FakeJohnMcClain?
     
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    It's not over yet, and I'll tell you why...

    OF COURSE NEW YORK SAYS THEY'LL MATCH

    it's basic puffery and chest pounding to scare off potential suitors to LIN.

    That doesn't mean they are serious about spending all that money. Not one bit.
     
  14. Spooner

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    None of those point guards played under Mike DAntoni, or were in a point guard dominant system to that degree. Therefore, the same could not be said for the guards you mentioned. Raymond Felton draws more of a comparison. Remember how good he was under Mike? I don't see anyone making an attempt to sign him now. Im not calling Lin trash by comparing him to Felton, just bringing to light the inflation in stats point guards yield in the system. In any case, all you really have to do is look at the numbers. In one of the games Lin was most acclaimed for, he scored 20 points on 8/24 shooting with 6 turnovers. What other system would enable a point guard to take around 20 shots per game, let alone a rookie? No matter how you slice it, those numbers are terrible. Lin's scoring average given the amount of shots he was permitted to take during "Linsanity" screams of inflated stats. No I don't hate Jeremy Lin, I don't think he is trash, and I'm certainly not racist. I understand some people here take anything against Lin as a personal insult, but in my personal opinion, I would stay the hell away from Lin. Especially at that price.
     
  15. asianballa23

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    you honestly dont think this is a stupid Q??
     
  16. SK34

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    Lets hope New York matches the offer because I think Lin is overrated. After his superb two weeks, he fell off because every defenses learned how to play him. He had more turnovers than Westbrook. That turnover ratio makes me not want him in houston any ways
     
  17. Asian Sensation

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    I hope we don't get Lin cause the board will be flooded with LOF's.
     
  18. Spooner

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    His two weeks weren't necessarily superb from an efficiency standpoint. In many cases quite the opposite. Not only did the defense learn to adjust, but he began playing against harder defenses. With the exlusion of a depleted Lakers team, Lin went up against some of the worst ranking defenses in the league during "Linsanity"
     
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    Knicks will match Lin’s deal with Rockets: sources
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    By Marc Berman

    Last Updated: 10:10 AM, July 6, 2012

    Posted: 3:16 AM, July 6, 2012
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    It wasn’t so poisonous.

    Jeremy Lin yesterday accepted the Rockets’ back-loaded “poison pill,” four-year, $28.8 million offer sheet, and it hardly created a ripple with the Knicks, who will match it. The final year even has a team option.

    Ignited by having Jason Kidd agree to join their roster and become Lin’s mentor, the Knicks can’t wait to get Lin back.

    “He’s their guy,’’ one NBA official debriefed on the Knicks’ strategy said. “They’ll match.’’

    The Knicks officially will be presented the offer sheet Wednesday, the day the NBA’s free-agency moratorium ends, and will have three days to match it. It should take them three minutes.
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    STUDENT & MASTER: Jeremy Lin and Jason Kidd go against each other last season. Next season, they are expected to share the Knicks’ point guard
    duties.

    Rockets general manager Daryl Morey presented Lin an offer sheet late on July 4 — calling for $5 million in the first year, $5.2 million in the second year, then backloading the deal with $9.3 million in the third year and $9.3 million in the fourth, according to a source. Yesterday, Lin’s agents tried to negotiate a guaranteed fourth year.

    The final two years could have gone as high as $15 million each, but the Rockets didn’t come close to the “poison pill,’’ which would have been a $40 million whopper.

    The third year of the deal is the only pill Knicks owner James Dolan will swallow because it puts him deep in luxury-tax territory, as five players would total $78 milllion — $5 million more than the threshold. In the non-guaranteed fourth year, however, the contracts of Carmelo Anthony, Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler will have expired.

    Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald will keep his word as he has said in every interview Lin would be back next season, pointing out he held the cards since he could match any offer. In fact, the belief is even the Rockets know the Knicks will match, but they could gain from sharing the pie of luxury-tax escrow money with other non-taxpaying teams.

    With Jason Kidd aboard, the Knicks see him and Lin occasionally sharing the backcourt. Coach Mike Woodson, who visited Lin in California in a recruiting pitch in June, said Lin would start next season, but all bets are off now.

    The Rockets are in search of point guards after trading Kyle Lowry yesterday and failing to re-sign Goran Dragic. It is plausible the Rockets made the offer sheet to Lin, once cut by the Rockets, as a publicity stunt since they are huge in China because of Yao Ming, who retired in 2011. The Rockets also could be doing Yao a favor because he is close to Lin. Grunwald had refused to make Lin an offer until he set his own price tag.

    Lin withdrew from the U.S. select team earlier this week — as first reported by The Post — because of his contract uncertainty and so he can do recruiting visits. That uncertainty is over. A source said Team USA officials have asked him to come to Las Vegas to at least to support the program. The select team will practice against the U.S. Olympic team starting today.

    The Lin offer sheet probably won’t change the Knicks’ thinking in matching Landry Fields’ offer sheet. The Knicks fully expect to re-sign shooting guard J.R. Smith for the 20 percent raise they are allowed — making his contract worth $2.8 million.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knic...h_jeremy_UiWmQy0rzKmQCNrv94gn5J#ixzz1zsHuxToy
     

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