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Will the cold blooded murder of an American icon by an Israeli go unpunished?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ewfd, Mar 22, 2003.

  1. treeman

    treeman Member

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    Sh*t. I thought the Jews killed Jerry Lewis...

    This thread has been done before.
     
  2. sinohero

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    :D :D ROTF.......

    Two birds with one joke. This just made my day.

    :D :D
     
  3. No Worries

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    Israel did it.

    Your complete lack of perspective is amusing.
     
  4. sinohero

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    I'm sorry, but couldn't Palestanian Authority TV stop calling suicide bombers martyrs.

    There are many inperfect civil societies out there in vast stretches of Asia and Africa. Isreal asked for the end of suicide bombings. I don't remember too many suicide bombers outside of Palestine.
     
  5. F.D. Khan

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    I agree with you on a few aspects. One being , yes, their society is diseased. Having generations of families displaced and oppressed and growing up in a refugee camp for gods sake will create a disease of the mind in which the prognosis is death and despair that leads to actions of terrorism and other deplorable actions against civilians.

    I blame both sides, but I feel Israel's policies of increasing settlement production is compounding the number of displaced individuals that will resent Israel. I believe in social justice and that a man with nothing to lose: no honor, no home, no family; is the most dangerous man alive. Israel's destructive actions have created a cadre of them that are easily influenced by radical elements in their society.

    Even today as we speak. Another village of Palestinians is being torn down and bulldozed. And to what end?? Israel allows jews from all over the world to enter and this is where they build homes for them. On the ashes of palestinian lands and crops.

    Would you be happy about it??? Would you allow this to go on and then talk of peace and happiness?? Israel is in a constant state of expansion annexing villages and throwing their people out. That is the cause for the disease that leads to terrorism.
     
  6. No Worries

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    So you watch a lot of Palenstine TV, huh?

    Maybe from the Palenstine perspective, they are martyrs.

    BTW, what do you call the Palenstine children that are gunned down during these raids? Just curious.
     
  7. F.D. Khan

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    How can anyone be so callous as to agree with this actions by the Israeli's. I think it shows their attitude that they don't give a damn about what the world thinks and feel they can do whatever they want.



    Activist's memorial service disrupted

    Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
    Wednesday March 19, 2003
    The Guardian

    Israeli forces fired teargas and stun grenades yesterday in an attempt to break up a memorial service for Rachel Corrie, the American peace activist killed by an army bulldozer in Gaza on Sunday.
    Witnesses including several dozen foreigners and Palestinian supporters say Israeli armoured vehicles tried to disperse the gathering at the spot in Rafah refugee camp where Ms Corrie was crushed to death.

    The 23 year-old activist with the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) was trying to prevent the destruction of Palestinian homes by the Israelis when she was hit by the bulldozer.

    Joe Smith, a young activist from Kansas City, said about 100 people were gathered to lay carnations and erect a small memorial when the first armoured personnel carrier appeared.

    "They started firing teargas and blowing smoke, then they fired sound grenades. After a while it got hectic so we sat down. Then the tank came over and shot in the air," he said. "It scared a lot of Palestinians, especially the shooting made a lot of them run and the teargas freaked people out. But most of us stayed."

    Another witness said the army failed to break up the service.

    "People were laying carnations at the spot where Rachel was killed when a tank came and fired teargas right on them. Then a core group of the peace activists took an ISM cloth banner to the fence and pinned it up.

    "The tank chased after them trying to stop them with teargas but the wind was against the army," she said.

    Tensions rose further when a convoy of vehicles, including the bulldozer that killed Ms Corrie, passed the area.

    "I don't think it was deliberate but it was pretty insensitive," said Mr Smith.

    "I think they had been destroying some buildings elsewhere and had to pass by to get back to their base."

    The army said it was investigating the incident.
     
  8. sinohero

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    You are still repeating the fatal determinism used by apologists of suicide bombers. Were the Tibetans oppressed? Are they still living in refugee camps? Yes, but where are the suicide bombers? Are the Sudanese Christians opressed, living in refugee camps, and sold as slaves? Yes, but where are the suicide bombers? Are the Iraqi Kurds (just so we cover all major religions) gased, opressed and still under attack? Yes, but where are the suicide bombers?

    Men walk on earth with brains and therefore free will. What is the point of life (and this discussion) if the situation we are born in DETERMINE our actions? Without Palestinians within their society voicing for reason and DECENCY, I do not see their freedom in the future. If Isreal is gone tommorrow morning, the Palestinians would just be opressed by Arafat and his minions. What is the real difference who your opressor is?
     
  9. F.D. Khan

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    I don't understand you though.

    This was a non-violent demonstration in which Rachel Corrie died. A NON-VIOLENT demonstration in the likes of Ghandi and Martin Luther King Jr. I am not equating her with them, but the idea of passive resistance is there.

    And I am in no means defending the Palestinians or their government, but Israel is Just as much if not more to blame for the violence that goes on there.
     
  10. sinohero

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    The last post was not talking about her situation, nor is it an apology for Isreali guilt, whether or not it is more than the Arabs'. The point of the last post was only to address one fallacy in your post.

    This thread is clearly going in circles. For a topic that had been talked about and an incident so trivial and frankly quite laughable, I think it's enough.
     
  11. Refman

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    And you look SOOOOOO likeable...with your calling people assholes and Gd's and all. Actually it is YOU who come off as looking not so likeable. You spew forth hatred when somebody makes a legitimate criticism of the garbage you posted.

    BTW...from dictionary.com...

    ICON: One who is the object of great attention and devotion; an idol: “He is... a pop icon designed and manufactured for the video generation”

    Given that most people had NO CLUE who she was...that disqualifies her from icon status. NEXT...!!!!!
     
  12. sinohero

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    For all intents and purposes, this thread should have died at the Jerry Lewis joke.

    Let's just forget the whole thing and move one. waste of space and time.
     
  13. sosorox

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    It might just be me, but there are a lot of people ready to defend the Israelis but few to defend the Palestinians. Do you all watch Fox News?!?!
     
  14. No Worries

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    I chose to defend or support neither. Of course, that probably makes me an anti-Semite in the eyes of the Anti-Defamation League.
     
  15. Uprising

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    It is sad, and I give my condolences to family and friends. But, she is not an American Icon. She can be a peace Icon or something...perhaps. but not an American one, there are pictures of her burning the american flag and Israeli flag. This shows her hatred to the USA, and so, in my book not an Icon of that country.
     
  16. Oski2005

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    :rolleyes:

    So an American citizen murdered by another nation's military is trivial??? Just because you disagree with the girl's beliefs and actions, doesn't mean you have to tivialize her death. There is absolutely nothing trivial about death. You are really coming off as callous person. And how was here death laughable? I think it's safe to say that you think this girl stood there and let the tank roll over here like that guy in Austin Powers who wouldn't get out of the path of the steam roller. Every report about this though claims that she fell and was ran over, TWICE.
     
  17. sinohero

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    [​IMG]

    I pity her as a human being, that's the last word I'm going to say on this subject.
     
  18. Heretic

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    I'm not a big fan of Israel.
     
  19. No Worries

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    I pity you as a human being, that's probably not the last word I'm going to say on this subject.
     
  20. sinohero

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    :rolleyes:
     

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