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Will Rafer Alston Be Successful under Adelman?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, May 24, 2007.

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  1. rhester

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    I'll try, this is like the SAT
     
  2. rhester

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    I will just list the western conf as I remember- (diregarding stats this is who I would take in a heart beat over Rafer)

    Steve Nash
    Tony Parker
    Derron Williams
    Chris Paul
    Baron Davis
    Jason Terry
    Allen Iverson
    Mike Bibby
    Delvin Harris
    Sam Cassell
    Rafer Alston
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    1. As has been pointed out before, Rafer's 3 point shooting is NOT his problem, his 2 pt shooting is. 36% from the arc isn't great, but it's good enough to keep firing from an expected point per possession point of view.

    2. Adelman is not magical, but there has been at least one player who had spent years shooting the high 30s and low 40s all his career having a couple of efficient seasons under Adelman:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/817/career;_ylt=ApjYIvlIV2VikfKSIZv2vQykvLYF

    For better or worse, if we are comparing Rockets players to old Kings players, Rafer may be the shorter blacker Doug Christie without the defense or the wife.
     
  4. ansfjs73

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    I can't believe you said that he will improve..

    Besides being a BAD shooter, this GUY AVOIDs CONTACT in the paint. He does not penetrate even when he has only one guy to beat..
     
  5. rhester

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    It is worth noting that of the 4 teams still playing for a World Championship 3 of them have very strong point guard play.
     
  6. Amel

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    lol

    yea riight

    Rafer is a horrible three point shooter, the reason why his stats look decent is because of how many OPEN threes he took...

    he had free space, he had good space (his shots were mostly taken from the middle or at 1 and 2 oclock), he had it all, he just could not hit them

    and to make it hurt even more, his shots were not even close, they always hit the rim in a akward way where the ball would just bounce of and sometimes end behind the board :eek:
     
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    Let me make this easy for you:

    Rafer's 3pt % is 36.3%. The points per possession on these is 1.089, or a TS% of 54.5%. TOs and FTs have minimal impact on these numbers because you rarely get either chucking 3s.

    If these were all wide open shots (which they are not... defenses do at least make a run at Rafer), the opposing defense is making a mistake leaving him open for these 3 pointers because I am pretty sure the Rockets overall points per possession is lower than 1.089.

    Overall, you'd still prefer another form of shot going up rather than an open Rafer 3.
     
  8. Amel

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    I preferred him to do anything else besides taking those threes. It did not accumulate to anything, besides he might loose his job because of it.
     
  9. daoshi

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    Alston's problem is not really 3pt shooting, it's more of his ability to get into the lane, and finish it. Although not enough, we do see him get into the lane rather easily from time to time, but the guy just couldn't finish it around the basket.

    Alston is a player doesn't make much mistake on the court, but he doesn't give you much either. This is overlooked when our offense have an easier time, but is always highlighted when the team don't score well. I'm not sure how much it has to do with the way JVG's system, how much it's himself. I guess we'll find that out soon IF he is not traded.
     
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    I did this a few weeks ago. I believe Rafer came in around 26-28
     
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    I don't buy that he is about in the 16-20 range IMO and only Barboso is clearly better as a non starter.
     
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    I think he will try to bring in a better Point Guard for the team, he won't trust Rafer, no more 40+ mins games to Skip.
     
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    hotballa, with all due respect, your post suks. ur comment about rafer is highly inaccurate. rafer is a capable spot-up 3 point shooter. the reason he shoots poorly is because with our terrible offense hes forced to shoot too many. that's about his only capabilities as a PG beside the good handle of the ball. Everything else suks, unlike whta you said. he penetration, his finishing inside, his floaters.......i'm speechless.
     
  14. SonKhan

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    Rafer Alston = finished
     
  15. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Rafer will be traded.
     
  16. Nice Rollin

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    for who pat burke? who can we get for him....nobody significant
     
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    Its also worth noting that the 2000 era Lakers, of which this team is pretty much molded to imitate, had, if memory serves, Derek Fisher and Tyronn Lue starting at the point.
     
  18. Nice Rollin

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    yeah...whats your point? TP can finish and he's smart enough not to jack up 11 threes a game
     
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    He jacks up the 3's all the time cause that's what Van Gundy told him to do. If you had him in a more free flowing offense where he could come off screens and drive to the hole and be more like "Skip" I think you'd see a much better point production out of him than he ever had with Van Gundy.
     
  20. Nice Rollin

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    Rafer's three point shooting is not a problem??? Ive never seen a player shoot a wide open three and hit nothing but backboard (phx game)
     

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