Will Military members and families vote for Trump?

A complete manipulator. That's his talent. And he knows how to wield the power of those that are loyal to him as the GOP has demonstrated time and time again.

I've never seen a president have such total control of his party that its a surprise when one gets out of line.

Yep, people should take him seriously. He's an idiot when it comes to general knowledge but he knows how to work people.

 

What’s the Malcolm Gladwell rule of 1000 hours or however long if you repeat something you become an expert? Trump has been doing what he does all his life and he’s damn good at it just by having so much experience being a con artist and manipulative son of a b$tch all his life.

 

This is fascinating stuff.
If im following you are saying the house could decide and that means biden?
Pelosi would risk house right since senate is republican. What are the triggers of each?

Having pence as puppet sounds strange with trump pulling strings. It sounds good but i think even pence would mute trump if he was president and the repugs would already be grooming their next guy.

Its all of nothing for trump and when would the one vote each state thing come? With the house? You say the states are repug but what is the number? We know of course like you say tx and fl but I would question on that how many blues for biden? Might be a fair number.

 

Lol. How comes every time when I hear those supposed Trump’s lies, I just feel silly like he’s entertaining me. When I heard Obama’s supposed lies, I felt fear and panic like he’s about to ream me with another tax or regulation to make my life, my practice harder than it was then.

 

What if the Orange man is right? What if he’s right about lots of things that you think he’s wrong or screwing up. Hmmm....Something to think about Isn’t it?

 

Here's an explanation below that is probably better than mine.

To your question yes this provision would be a House vote on Biden vs Trump. And based on the way things work, the House holds the power to vote at any time before the 4th of March for this vote, but the Dems would lose the vote because each state only has one vote which puts Republicans in the majority on a single state vote. Which is why Pelosi wouldn't put this vote on the House floor.

What I'm unclear on is if Republicans can force a vote, or who could force Pelosi to vote prior to March 4th 2021. My guess is the Supreme Court would be asked to weigh in by the Republicans. If Pelosi refuses, and it gets to March 4th, that's when the Senate has the constitutional power to act, and make Pence president.

https://buzzflash.com/articles/wors...lar-and-electoral-vote-thom-hartmann-explains

I was wrong too about precedent. I would likely be the election of 1876 which would be invoked by the Republicans if this went to the Supreme Court to mediate a path forward on the vote.

This also explains why winning back the Senate is so important in November for many reasons.

 

I think that maybe your bias is being realized. Honestly, its good that you are recognizing that bias. When a person from one party says something your hackles go up instantly and you start to attach all this bad to it. When a person from the other party says 8 times the amount of lies you play it off as nothing big. Just think about that, seriously think about that. I mean as a person that does not know you, I think this was a statement that was telling about how you view the political world. We are 3 years removed from Obama, how many of those fears about him came true. I mean really true.

The Republican party has done a great job of selling fear and how they saved their constituents from the evils of Obama, yet what they really did was nothing. That shows because when they had the ability to do something the only thing they got through was a crappy tax program that benefited the uber-wealthy. NOTHING ELSE WAS DONE. Why? Because they were just so used to doing nothing it came naturally when they were in power. The deficit, hard pass. 2nd Amendment bills, nada. Real immigration legislation, zip. It feels like the republicans have bought into the idea that doing nothing is accomplishing something. Much like people on Facebook that think complaining is an accomplishment. Lots of complainers in the Republican party, none too many doers of deeds.

 

I think you just answered your own question. Maybe for you the tax regulation fear is what causes fear and panic. Trump's tax laws only benefit those who need the money the least to get by.

I didn't see any raise in my military retirement after Trump took office compared to when Obama was in office. The rich got a whole lot richer though.

 

I was not bought in by parties, I look at candidates only. If you followed 2016, the Dems weren’t Trump’s biggest enemy, the Republican establishments was. Remember the term “ Never Trumpers”? Trump was a Democrat before and everyone on your side of the aisle loved him back then. The moment he declared his candidacy, he became Hitler overnight, everyone hated him and most of all the Republican establishments. What are you talking about 3 years removed from Obama’s lies? We’re still paying for his lies every single day, there are too numerous to get into in this thread. Why do you think he won’t shut up in retirement like every other presidents before him? He’s flapping his gums everyday now because Trump is dismantling his lies err...I mean his legacy before his eyes.

 

I dunno, that's you. Your feelings are not facts, but maybe because as @Rileydog pointed out you're all in? He's your guy and all.

Why is Trump lying about elections? Why is he saying that illegals are getting ballots in California? Why is he lying about mail-in ballots? These are no small lies and he's lying about it a lot recently. Should make you scared about what he actually thinks about fair and free elections.

What kind of argument is this?

What if he's wrong? What if he is everything Mattis says? What if giving him 4 more years of power is the beginning of the end for democracy in this country? Something to think about, isn't it?

What is he right about exactly?

Not sure there was a moment that Trump was loved by Democrats before 2016. He spent his whole time then doing his birtherism crap.

Before then he was just another celeb. Not sure there was ever a moment where he was celebrated or liked among anyone other than people that thought he was an entertaining personality, which he was. It's just that the presidency shouldn't be about entertainment.

 

I applaud this process! There is not a non-biased news agency on this earth. Except for the Hannity Show.

 

You are basing this on what?

 

You're pretty hilarious.

 

Is that a serious question? I remember support for Trump was past 80% for cops

 

Interesting that's what you pulled from what I responded with. I honestly was hoping for some substance from you. All bluster no significance. Looks like the self-reflection got thrown into the trash real quick. My side of the aisle? Please let me know what my side of the aisle is. I think you might be surprised what "my side of the aisle" is. As for Trump, I have never in my life liked Trump. I feel like I have always seen him for what he was. I still remember the first time I saw Trump as a kid, he was on the cover with a bunch of money in his arms bragging about how much money he made in a day. Yeah, I loved that guy. . . .. . He is what I always felt he was. A braggart that can not back up his boasts.

Obama's lies are too numerous to get into in this thread. That to me is code for "I really can't name any so if I make it seem like there are a lot maybe I will get a pass and won't be pressed on this issue" Much like Trump's current lie of Obamagate being the biggest crime ever.
I now see why you like the guy, so much in common.

You love that Trump is a counter puncher, yet if anyone counterpunches him you complain about it. Seems the right have a word for that. . . . . what is it, snowflake. Is that right? I am asking for a friend.
Obama has rarely spoken directly about Trump, he may allude but he rarely speaks directly about him. Can Trump say the same thing? Once again your okay with one person doing something 100 times as much but freak out if the other person even hints at doing it once. A little self-reflection will go a long way.

 

Instead of a tip jar bet there should be a bet that whichever candidate loses the supporters have to watch a week's worth of Hannity or Meadow. The only problem with that is whoever wins will be watching that show and saying "Yeah! Take that MF!"....lol.

 

It’s still early, the fat lady hasn’t sung yet, but for a starter, how about China? The biggest thread of the 21st century to mankind and he’s the only one tackling it.