I would take Jason Terry over Lowry to be our PG. Would you? If so please look at AB. You might also want to take a look at how many scoring options Dallas has atm.
Brooks has shot 48% on his layups at the rim both last year and this year, while Parker has consistently been well over 60% for at least the last 4 seasons (the average PG shoots 56% on shots at the rim this season). Brooks gets those shots off by using his long reach and large hands to flip it over/around defenders. But he very often rushes it, and he ends up missing quite a lot of them. Parker has a much stronger build, and he can actually absorb contact and finish with greater control. He's much more accurate.
In this thread, no one has discussed DEFENSE, or if it gets discussed, it's just a passing "yeah lowry plays good defense". Kyle Lowry is a top 3 defensive PG in the NBA. Aaron brooks is a bottom 3 defense PG in the NBA. That alone makes the discussion moot.
1. Lowry has been in the league longer than brooks, don't try to say lowry has time to learn and go off and label brooks as a bad PG. 2. Yes he would have become the starter, he showed exactly why when he came off the bench for rafer. 3. If you honestly think that mcgrady had anything to do with rafer being traded, you are delusional, there was an article stating they tried trading rafer MANY times, there just weren't any takers.
kyle lowry is not top 3 in defense. Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Chauncey Billups, and even Russel Westbrook beg to differ. Stop making stupid assumptions like that, it clearly hints towards a predisposed bias that reeks of impartiality from a mile away.
LOL at chris Paul, steals does not equal defense LOL at Deron williams, have you even seen him play other than rockets games? Double LOL at rose and Westbrook, a few highlight blocks does not equal defense. Chauncey is good but he has slipped cos of age. The only legit better defender than lowry is Rondo.
That may be the case but how does that augment the argument of lowry starting? Your entire base is built upon the fact that Lowry is more of the archetypical PG. We all know that Tony Parker was a scorer and never the "Great PG" as you guys like to fantasize over, but it is clear that Tony Parker is miles above lowry. You were right about parker's finishing ability being there all along but I have had the oppertunity of watching all the spurs games (lived in SA) and watching how parker developed. He was terrible when they decided to start him but gradually showed glimpses of a unique scoring talent we see in brooks.
Why did I know you were going to bring that up? Have you ever heard of all NBA defensive teams? It is incredibly foolish to say that steals don't equal defense. All defense doesn't involve steals, not the other way around.
Do you know one of the reasons why Parker has such a high FG% around the rim? Flopping, the guy flops all the time and those fouls and misses do not count as field goal attempts. Tony Parker falls down more than anyone in the entire league, he goes through the lane and flops even when he is not touched, the Refs protect that guy more than anyone else. Now, clearly he is a good finisher, but I would be seriously interested to see what his finishing percentage would be if you took out the fouls called and added in those shot attempts. I am CERTAIN his percentage would plummet.... Brooks, on the other hand, gets ZERO respect from the refs.......one thing he could learn from Parker and Lowry is the art of flopping.....of course those guys are injured more often too, not a coincidence either, IMO. DD
Williams is a good defender, you can say its because of his bulky size and length but he has consistently out played every PG by holding them to fewer points/productivity, including Paul.
a few things... the common perception in this thread is that other teams would rather have brooks then lowry. but did you know that during lowry's second season in memphis their GM chris wallace said that 14 teams contacted him about kyle at the trade deadline. thats half the league... he is a commodity no doubt about it. another thing i was going to mention but i think it was durvasa pointed out, lowry and brooks have identical ts%. they score in different ways and 3 pointers are much more glamorous then ft's so people tend to discredit lowry's shooting ability. we dont know what lowry will be like as a starter since we've never experienced it but i think if the team cant prove it can win with brooks, kyle at least deserves a chance. what we do know is that brooks can be effective off the bench since we've seen him in that role. we also know that kyle is a very good playmaker. he gets his team mates involved, is excellent at feeding the low post (see landry), and has a more then respectable assist to turnover ratio. he has a very unique skill set and until we see him actually play with the starters we wont be able to see how it translates. im all for whats better for the team. how can we be so sure that kyle is better suited off the bench until we see him start? were lucky to have two very talented pg's and i think we need to find out what is the best way to utilize them. only way we can do that is to give lowry a chance. if the team is winning though let brooks continue to start. if it aint broken dont fix it. unfortunately im not sure i can confidently say that we arent broken...
not only that. Pop devised a pure genius system playing off TD, not like we do to Yao (immobility) because they have amazing spacing and efficient 3 pt shooters that send a dagger through your team.
D.Williams is one of the worst defensive players in the league, not sure where you get your information.
Yes, it's a popularity contest. Go look at the NBA league leaders in steals, you will see some pretty atrocious defensive teams leading the league in steals, and good defensive teams like spurs, orlando, cleveland at the bottom.
