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Will Kobe Bryant come to the Rockets next season??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Kingpinmaster, Oct 27, 2003.

  1. Dairy Ashford

    Dairy Ashford Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Kobe initially drafted by the Hornets, but then requested a trade to LA to be in a bigger media market?

    If that's true, then I have a hard time believing Kobe would ever go anywhere other than New York. Alsoo, I think Kobe understands that Shaq won't be around forever, so he'll probably just "wait him out" and then it will be"his" team.

    Unfortunately, I also think AlexVanderepool is dead on about this feud being meant too distract from the rape case. And if the general media catches on, then that probably wouldn't be good for the NBA as a whole - two of their biggest stars doing spin- control on a rape charge, I mean.
     
  2. abliss

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    I don't like im any way.
    This dud is so stupid
     
  3. dugtzu

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    the only reason kobe looks so good now is because phil "i turned jordan into a winner so you better listen" jackson demands his respect. his gigantic ego will refuse to believe any other coach knows what they are talking about if they tell him to defer. its obvious he wants to be numero uno on different team- no way that happens in houston. besides, have any of you who think that he'll be a great fit actually heard the guy talk? jackson can barely control him as it is. sure he can score points, but whats the laker's record when kobe plays and shaq is injured? he's a scorer, not a winner. (also a coddled rich kid and, considering his relationship with his father, probably has no clue what it means to be a man)
     
  4. slcrocket

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    I'm still not sold on this "Kobe Bryant's a ballhog" idea. You may disagree with the guy's shot selection at times, you can try to call into question his intentions--but the guy shoots the ball WELL. This is a career 46% field goal shooter, which granted isn't the most amazing percentage ever, but I don't see a great cause for alarm there. That's comparable (even slightly higher) than the FG% for McGrady, Allen, and other comparable shooting guards--and I don't hear anybody complaining that they are ballhogs on their respective teams--and Kobe has averaged almost 6 assists a game for the past two seasons.
    I guess what I'm trying to say is that in MY opinion, if the guy can shoot the ball effectively and at a reasonable percentage, let him shoot it. If Kobe was a 39% shooter or something, I would DEFINITELY take exception to him shooting as often as he does. But dude hits his shots. And I don't think he neglects his teammates as much as everyone seems to say he does.
    I realize that hating Kobe is kind of the popular thing to do right now--when this whole trial began I didn't know what to think about things, and I've been one of the Kobe apologists for years. But I really don't understand the ballhog talk.
    If you just hate Kobe, that's perfectly fine--I just don't get it.
     
  5. hooroo

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    Nah, Detroit would be a good fit for Kobe, not Hou.
     
  6. RocketManJosh

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    Personally there are only two teams that Kobe will want to play for next year ... The LA Clippers and the NY Knicks. His ego is too big to play anywhere else.

    IMHO ... I think he is going to head to the Clippers. His ego is so huge that I think he actually believes he can solely turn the clippers franchise around into a championship team and he knows that if that were to happen he would get 100% of the credit.
     
  7. knwldg

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    Okay, I have never been one to down someone else's opinion, but.......

    YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!!!

    How are you going to say that The Dream was a selfish player?!?!?

    He carried this franchise for several years, and we wouldn't have any respect, clout, cred and not to mention 2 championships!

    But you're propably either to young or to stupid to remember what he has done for this organization.

    The only reason why The Dream has had any issue withjhis rep, is because:

    1) he played in Houston, where no matter what happens in the sports world, we as a city will never get the respect as a true sports town

    2) because he had altercations with the refs (due to the fact that he nver received the "vet calls" that so many other players get in their careers).

    I must be out my own mind responding to such an idiotic, shallow and immature posting, but I feel someone has to call "BULLS*IT"!!!

    Sit back and learn a little more before posting your emotions, and try posting a well thought out, experienced based, handicapping post that actually makes some sort of sense, even on The Jim Rome show!
     
  8. RocketManJosh

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    I've never seen someone so blinded by their love for a single basketball player. It is OK to love Yao and he is a good basketball player, but to talk trash about him doing better than Olajuwon when he is only in his second year is absurd. Even Yao would b*tch slap you for that because it is so stupid. Yao has qualities that dream didnt and dream had many that Yao doesnt. At least give Yao several years before you try to crown him God.
     
  9. olliez

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    Dear Cluth, please put this thread out of its misery.....

    :confused:
     
  10. knwldg

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    Sorry, for going off...

    As for Koby coming to the Rox, save it!!!

    It propably will not happen, and if we have an opprotunity to do it, we definitly should pass.

    He cannot play with the triangle offense because "it limits his creativity."

    In other words, he cannot play within a offense designed to help any person on the strong side to have an open high percentage shot, because it takes the ball out of his hands and he cannot create his own shot.

    CAN YOU SAY BALLHOG!!!

    Fine, if you are MJ on the Bulls for his first four season.

    Fine, if you are Wilt Chamberlian and the only other person in the league who can give you any sort of hassel is Bill Russell.

    But for Koby, who has had one of the most dominant centers, no matter how much he does get away with, that has ever played and other complementary that could put the ball in the basket, i.e. Derek Fisher, Rick Fox (last year) and this year including Gary Payton, Karl Malone Bryon Russell, and still wants to play outside of the offense!?!

    Please!

    The kid has mad skills and talent, but has the basketball mind of a every other immature ballhog that no one will pick up on a street game cause he may score 10 buckets by himself, but you will still loose the game.....by duece!!!

    I say, let him ride, let him leave the Lakers (which is something I don't think he actually has the balls to do, he is trying to the front offices' attention like a kid throwing a fit cause his sister won't stop picking on him) and go to another team, other than the Rox.

    The only coach that he would be able to be "creative" the way he would like is Nelly, which IMO, is the only real option he has. ANd don't think twice that Mark Cuban isn't salivating for that opprotunity.
     
  11. dandorotik

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    She can kick my a** anyday.
     
  12. verse

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    who the hell is koby???

    :confused:


    i keep reading messages about this "koby" dude, but damnit, i can't find him on anyone's roster. is he a NBDL stud or something? italian league perhaps? WTF?

    :confused:
     
  13. tslee98

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    My predictions for where Kobe will be one year from now:

    Los Angeles Lakers -- 30%
    New York Knicks -- 15%
    Los Angeles Clippers -- 13%
    Memphis Grizzlies -- 12%
    Colorado State Penitentiary -- 10%
    Indiana Pacers -- 9%
    Detroit Pistons -- 7%
    Miami Heat -- 3%
    Philadelphia 76ers -- 1%

    No team is going to get Kobe without a sign-and-trade. So the folks who want to see Yao, Kobe, and Steve are out of luck.
     
  14. Bobliu

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    Dear knwldg,

    If I were you I would not post such a long post full of s^!t.

    Why I am saying that? Here you go:

    You said: He cannot play with the triangle offense because "it limits his creativity."

    That is totally wrong. Kobe can play the triangle offense and has been playing it for the past 4+ seasons.

    You said: In other words, he cannot play within a offense designed to help any person on the strong side to have an open high percentage shot, because it takes the ball out of his hands and he cannot create his own shot.

    Wrong again. Kobe can play within a lot of different offensive systems. Including the one designed to help Shaq. The Lakers are built around Shaq, and each one on the team was supposed to help Shaq. Kobe did just that: helping Shaq to win 3 consecutive championships. The only exception was part of the last season when Shaq was not ready, and Kobe was instructed BY THE COACH to carry the offensive load. And he did what he was told (remember the longest 40 point games of the NBA?)

    You said: CAN YOU SAY BALLHOG!!!

    Have you actually saw Kobe playing this game? The man has lead the Lakers in assists year after year. He has been one of the hand full of SG's in the history of the NBA who also average 5+ assists. Making 20 attempts while shooting 47% is not ballhog. Ballhogs atempt 23 shots while shooting <40%.

    You said: But for Koby, who has had one of the most dominant centers, no matter how much he does get away with, that has ever played and other complementary that could put the ball in the basket, i.e. Derek Fisher, Rick Fox (last year) and this year including Gary Payton, Karl Malone Bryon Russell, and still wants to play outside of the offense!?!

    First of all, let me tell you one more time: Kobe has never played out side of the Lakers offense! Kobe averages 40 munites per game. Do you think a coach like Phil Jackson would allow any player to play out side of his system? If you do then you have to give yourself another name ... Now let's see how good a shooter Fisher and Fox are: 40.6% and 43.5% with the Lakers. And you call them Do you call them "other complementary that could put the ball in the basket".

    Please!

    Yes, please. PLease watch some actual Laker games and read some of the Laker players' stats. Then you can come back to make your outrageous statements.

    More silly ans stupid statements about Kobe:

    The kid has mad skills and talent, but has the basketball mind of a every other immature ballhog that no one will pick up on a street game cause he may score 10 buckets by himself, but you will still loose the game.....by duece!!!

    I say, let him ride, let him leave the Lakers (which is something I don't think he actually has the balls to do, he is trying to the front offices' attention like a kid throwing a fit cause his sister won't stop picking on him) and go to another team, other than the Rox.

    The only coach that he would be able to be "creative" the way he would like is Nelly, which IMO, is the only real option he has. ANd don't think twice that Mark Cuban isn't salivating for that opprotunity.


    What can I say.... SIGH...
     
  15. okierock

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    The Lakers will get rid of every single player on their roster before they get rid of Kobe.

    Kobe is what 26 years old. The rest of the Lakers are old and almost done, when they are done the Lakers will be rebuilding. Kobe will be the centerpiece and will also get his oportunity to lead his own team.

    Kobe ain't goin nowhere.
     
  16. knwldg

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    Dear Bobliu,

    Sorry, let me clarify:

    Koby Bryant stated in an interview that he has issue with running within the triangle offense because "it limits my creativity."

    So I should have said, Koby has issue with running in the the triangle offense, a team oriented offense.

    Second, he does not play within the offense the way it is designed, he does, however, break the play or take a low percentage shot.

    Third, if you can't understand the statement:
     
  17. Bobliu

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    You do not know me, so please do not assume anything.

    If you want to understand Kobe, you may try to post some of your concerns at www.Lakersground.net. You'd be delighted by quite a few nice Laker fans there to explain to you what kind of a basketball player Kobe has been ...
     
  18. Bobliu

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    Well, this could be helpful, knldg
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  19. danjojo

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    You must have been in the room...

    That was one bright post !!! And OJ Simpson is not guilty either right ?

    I wouldn't want this guy anyway...
     
  20. wizkid83

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    OJ went through the systme and was aquitted. Not that it means anything anymore.
     

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