Will Iso was good at college player but adding a young bench guy this late won’t make that much of a difference.
So you are saying David West, Durant, and Livingston won't try to post up CP3. Where are you getting your info....please? I usually look on Stats.nba.com Playoff numbers vs Spurs? Because they didn't need it vs Spurs doesn't mean they won't attempt it vs Houston. Durant, West and Livingston had high post up frequencies during the season.
David West would get run off the court on a switch vs Harden and CP3. CP3 made a name for himself for defending Durant in the post back in 2014. I can live with Livingston postups.
If the question is wether the Warriors have enough good defenders to switch on everything and avoid mismatches with the Rockets, then that is a real discussion. But ISO+P&R offenses are built to exploit mismatches on such switches, and not switching simply creates openings for 3 point shooters.
Yes and no, we have to make it as hard as possible on the Warriors, which means mix and match to try at least to catch them off guard. Harden iso however is so good that you have to take your chances, since he seems to know when to shoot and when to pass.
Yes. They are doing it 5% of the time as a team, 33 plays over 6 games , roughly on par with the regular season. The only trend that is really noticeable from perusing team post-up stats is that teams that rely on the post-up a lot (10%) tend not to be incredibly successful. I would love for the Warriors to abandon their core offense and go to Durant, West, Livingston backing people in from 15 feet. The Rockets are sneaky good at defending these plays, but it would remind of when Harrison Barnes used to do it - way better than the other options if you're on defense. Conversely, if I see the Rockets, at this late stage, start relying on a diet of Nene Hook shots or harden turnaround fadeaways from 15 feet, we are in deep, deep trouble.
We will absolutely keep using it and probably more than ever against gsw. Gsw is great defensively and have a lot of talent but their biggest weakness has always been isolation, specifically with curry. You know that one play you love using on madden? It’s unguardable and you play this kid who just hurry up offense and runs that same play every single time? It’s annoying and crappy and no fun, but it works over and over. That’s what we are gonna see with curry isolation. Every single time down the court on offense we are going to purposely attack curry on the switch and force him to defend us. Not only is it an advantageous spot to pick on but it will also force him to exert more energy defensively which could lead to less energy offensively and the hope is more missed shots. Now, gsw are gonna send actions to protect curry like doubles etc... and we will have to attack what they give us so it won’t be 100% curry isolation but it will be a lot.
It's really weird to me that the "less iso" crowd is arguing for more post ups. Post ups are basically iso plays from a different spot on the floor, you're still just picking a guy to go 1 on 1 with his defender. If we are going to have less Harden/CP3 iso then I would much rather replace it with movement and passing that lead to open shots. I don't want to replace it with our worse players going 1 on 1.
Y'all remember the play where Ariza was standing at the 3pt line, very near Gordon who was at the corner 3? Ariza pump fakes, dishes to Gordon, then cuts downhill for an easy layup off the give-and-go? Cook me up some more of THAT. Green needs to be setup like that everytime he touches the ball. Give him an eject option.
OH NOES - they've got a special secret defense over in Area 51 they're going to throw at us. It is the product of 10,000,000,000,000,000 AI simulations per second derived on Vibranium/Alien hybrid quantum computers from when the Wakandans sent their hovercraft to Oakland to establish an embassy. Either that, or they will play some form of man-to-man. Meanwhile, the Rockets are just going to trot out a box & 1, same as always. SIGH. 11 dimensional chess vs. Checkers.
per the same site you may be using stats.nba.com Playoffs-playtype-Post Ups (17/18) Durant.....3.8% frequency.......1.67 ppp Klay........4.1% frequency........1.20 ppp Livingston..9.1% frequency.....0.91 ppp West.........6.1% frequency.....1.00 ppp I’m a Houston homer so I hope you and @Swiss Roll are right. I hate the Warriors.....but I do respect their potential. May come down to two playtypes when the Warriors meet the Rockets. Houston.........Iso..............1.06 ppp (17/18 playoffs) Warriors.......post ups.......1.09 ppp (17/18 playoffs) Playoffs are all about mismatches and adjustments. It will be one heck of series. I’m ecstatic Luc is back.
These stats are meaningless because of how few plays they have run though. In six games played, Durant has posted up 6 total times and Klay 5 times. Durant shot 3/4 and got fouled twice. Klay shot 3/4 and turned the ball over once. Four shots isn't nearly enough plays to draw any conclusions.
Yeah, you know your sample size is like 3-6 attempts per guy right? I'm all in for Durant abandoning the perimeter and trying to score 167 points a game though, same with Thompson
The fact that Klay and Durant are only posting up around 4% not only beckons small sample size, but it implies that the play is situational at best, only used in the cases of extreme mismatches like Durant on Patty Mills 5 feet from the basket. Harden is strong as hell and Paul is a master at stripping the ball when defending a post up.
Yes I know this smart guy. It a team finds something that works....a opposing team may not make the adjustments until halftime....orrrrrrr the next game or 2. So something that is used seldom in the regular season or 1st round (conserving energy against a lesser opponent or you don’t want scouting departments of other teams to focus on) may be used at a greater rate. Say from 6% going up to 14% if they are tacking on points by shooting over a shorter PJ Tucker or CP3 in the post. If the Rockets shut down the Warriors post game......it’s jut 6% of their usual scheme. They go on no phased. If the Warriors some how figure how to shut down the Rockets iso.......it may be game over. So your small sample frequency or large sample frequency “can” mean nothing in the playoffs if you don’t have an answer. You do understand Curry is the straw that stirs the Warriors drink.....and he hasn’t played yet. Right.
If we don't beat the Warriors it will not be due to our offensive or defensive strategies. We won 65 games with key guys missing a 8 plus games. With our big 3 intact we went 42-3, which is absolutely absurd... Let that sink in for a second....if your initial thought is, wow amazing stat/great time (you are correct, Rockets' season was historically great) Now consider the reality... As great as the Rockets are and have been, the fact is that if both teams turn out to play their absolute best, the Warriors would win because they are the most talented squad ever assembled and if fully healthy would and should be favored against any team in the history of the league let alone this years Rockets.... While I obviously want to beat the crap out of GS we have to be realistic. I just hope the final result is one that we fans will never look back at and wonder what could have been and instead be able to comfortably and acceptingly believe it was the furthest the Rockets could have gone.
