Umm..religion has nothing to do with it. It is not the same thing as a statue. It has to do with licensing issues, the same reason why Bonds and other players are not included in some other games.
What I meant to say was that during the 90's, Jordan was not in any NBA games but was in the NBA, thus contradicting my previous statement.
Yeah I think this has to do with licensing rights more than anything. Scratch that he just doesnt get any respect whatsoever. Can someone give me the rockets legends team lineup? I got Live but I dont know how to unlock the legends.
can i get an answer from a Muslim, some of you experts seem to think religion has nothing to do with this, but i still think it is involved somehow. since Hakeem retired, he has been loyal to Islam and Islamic rules and sanctions. basically he wants to be a good Muslim. what happened in the 80s or 90s might be different now, he is a devout Muslim and and there are rules regarding drawing caricatures, taking photographs, even PLAYING video games as long as it does not interfere with one's worship... i'm not saying this is the reason for his absence in a video game, but i am simply adding my knowledge of Islamic rules regarding revering or glorifying...
Whew. Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering whether the prohibition on making false idols applied to lines of computer code and a bunch of pixels and polygons. Does it apply if I imagine Hakeem in 3 dimensions? Do I just have to imagine him flat, in a cardboard cutout - becaue effectively it's the same thing, right? It's a chemical reaction that produces a 3D image, just like on a video screen. What about if I watched an old rockets game with 3-d glasses? Or if I wrote a pop up book - now there's a tricky one.
Hakeem was a devout Muslims throughout the 90s, so why didn't he object then? A statue is not the same thing as a video game or a photograph. I have never heard anything being said about video games, so the religion thing doesn't fly especially since Hakeem was in numerous other games in the past. And last time I checked not Bonds nor Sosa are Muslims, and they are often not in some video games for licensing reasons.
arent there other muslims in the league? see if abdur rahim is in the game, or tariq adbul that french dude is in the game.
the reason hakeem didnt object in the 90s was because he didnt have a choice. The NBA controlled all licensing rights back then and they werent too concerned with islam at the time.... Now that he controls his rights, he obviously has decided not to be in NBA Live...
why do you keep bringing up bonds and sosa? look, i never said "hakeem is not in the game because of his religion" i simply offered an explanation to someone who was confused about the whole religion thing... a theory if you will... fact of the matter is there ARE Islamic rules regarding drawing Islamic figures, and regarding entertainment and playing video games, never mind the rule about "NBA legends who once appeared in video games but dont any more"
hmm how about basketball cards? cuz dream still signs cards for upper deck for their autograph inserts. i believe there was that hakeem/yao autograph insert and one with russell. wouldnt that be of the same idol type theory?
Hakeem will be in there if he can make some money off it, for all his muslimness, he is still a capitalist at heart. DD
Honestly, short of building an actual statue for him, there is nothing wrong with having him in a video game or billboards or whatever. I strongly doubt the religious aspect is why he's not in recent video games, because he certainly was in other game during his playing career (the latter part of his career that is, I remember playing with NBA Live and he was there). As for Hakeem being a capitalist, that he is, but he's a 'reasonable' capitalist. Remember why he signed with Spalding?
Yes, because of affordable footwear...good for him. Then he also refused to honor his committment to a building adjacent to Minute Maid park - bad for him. He is at his core a true capitalist....I am sure he also made some money with Spalding too. Probably did not give them a discount....
Why would he give a MNC like Spalding a discount? The bottom line is those kids who couldn't afford the Air Jordans were able to buy the same shoes the legend himself laced up every night, although I myself would've never even considered those shoes Of course he's a capitalist, all Muslims are
Do you have any inside source to your claim? Nothing wrong with being a capitalist and being a muslim. From what i have read I dont think Islam forbids capatilism.
Hakeem said Spaldings were for mothers who could not afford $100 sneakers for their kids. I highly doubt Spalding CEOs and CFOs were 'females' who could not afford the expensive Jordan and Barkley sneakers for their 'poor kids'. The discount was for the poor. Dealings with Spalding were a fair game (Islam and capatilism are not mutually exclusive). They did not need a discount. In fact, Spalding should just be thankful that they had a chance to get endorsed by a superstar of Hakeem's stature.
