Will China Mediate the Israeli Palestinian Conflict

I can't say that I'm impressed. If China were to actually assume a significant role in the Middle East that amounted to anything with regard to the "peace process," you'll be able to knock me over with a feather, judo. I view this as more about pumping up China as a "world power," than an effort with any realistic possibility of success. Look, China is deliberately positioning itself as a world power, a world power in the real sense, not the economic sense, where countries like Japan would also qualify, IMO. And there's nothing inherently wrong with the attempt, of course. This sort of diplomatic effort, such as it is, dovetails with that.

The trappings of a real world power? One is a blue water navy deployed far from its shores, a capable blue water navy that must be taken seriously. China has been deploying elements of the PLAN looking for pirates off the southern entrance of the Red Sea for a while now, and on occasional cruises in the Indian Ocean, stopping at, for example, a new seaport on the coast of Pakistan built by China, and (incredibly) under its control. Supposedly for commercial use (an "aid project"), it's perfectly obvious what the real reason is for the project, now largely completed. To service the ships of the PLAN now and into the future. Needless to say, India is very unhappy about it, as are we, and China is looking elsewhere to build similar facilities around the Indian Ocean, the so-called "string of pearls," which has India royally ticked off. As a consequence, India has increased spending on defense, on its own navy, and at the expense of doing other things that are needed to continue to improve the standard of living of its people, which is exactly the same thing China is doing, but India's doing it on a smaller scale, India having a smaller economy, with far less money to spend. In another reaction to China, India is busy improving relations with those countries threatened by China's absurd claims in the South and East China Seas. She has started sending the occasional naval patrol to the South China Sea, which is clearly in response to China's actions in India's backyard.

That's one example of China's effort to become more than an economic world power. China's efforts in this regard will have consequences and some of them, like expanding its reach into the Indian Ocean, are having consequences she may not like in the future. Literally forcing India to spend billions she'd rather not spend on her military is one of them. So China will face a more powerful India in the future. Is that really in her long term interests?

 

China will only try to be a world power when it needs unobtanium.

This is low risk posturing to improve global status and mindshare.

Like their monetary policy, they're accumulating currency while doing their best not to use it.

 

send in big yao! he's ready to show he's on Jesus' level.

 

China doesnt intervene cos it's scared of setting precedence.

If it intervenes, then others might use it as an excuse to intervene in Tibet, in Taiwan and the trouble regions in China (cant remember the name right now).

 

China have too much things to worry about at home to worry about world conflicts at the moment, unless it can get major benefits from solving these conflicts. Non interventionist policy have served China well so far, I do not see this policy changing much during the foreseeable future.

 

China has been "intervening" left and right in the South China Sea, and needs to be very careful in the East China Sea, making huge claims to "territory" in both areas. I'm not seeing what you are seeing. It would be very nice if you were right, but I don't think you are.

 

No one in the middle east speaks Chinese.

 

That is all depend on your view of the area, everyone is claiming they have ownership. Non intervention is not meddling in the affairs of other countries, not giving up what you believe are your rights. Just like I do not expect the other countries around the area to give up their rights anytime soon.

 

So if the most powerful nation in the region simply takes what it wants, then that's OK, as long as that country is China?

 

When did I say that?

All I said is China do not like to intervene in other countries' affairs. The question you are asking is like asking how to solve the Israel Palestinian issue. although it is not as bad a situation (Are Israel or Palestine intervening in that region?). I hope a joint development agreement between the nations can be reached in the future, I believe that will be the most likely outcome.

 

That sounds awfully like the attitude our glorious USA used when we started every major conflict since WW2

 

China doesn't intervene because it's like most other countries: unlikely to intervene.

The most important thing for the Israeli Palestinian conflict is for the US to exit its farudulent role as chief negotiator. The last thing we need is for China to enter this process and complicate the politics further. While I'm sure China is regarded as more neutral towards the conflict, it is certainly not neutral towards the US and the US is not about to exit its role as a major player. It would not save any more Palestinians or Israelis, and it may even hurt more Israelis than before if China and the US begin competing.

This is the offe on the table, allegedly turned down by Netenyahu: East Jerusalem is Palestine, contiguous Palestinian state based on 1967 borders, recognition of Israel + normal relations with all Arab League states, no right of return and some land swaps.

This offer is monumental. If that is a fair deal, it is on the table and the US has the ability to convince the Israelis to accept it. At some point the decades of failure in this conflict has to be seen as systematic obstruction. No one fails that often, that consistently, for that long.

 

The only problem is no Israeli politician will divide Jerusalem. Eventually Israeli settlement will cut it out from the rest of the West Bank. Then they will say there's no feasible way for it to be the capital of Palestine.

 

They can't do a worse job than we have.

 

Cmon man. We've done a decent job, at worst.

Spoiler

Said no one ever.

 

You would be surprised.....

 

Pure business.

China wont ever intervene with the customers, not like someone else....

 

You sounded like 'others' need an excuse to intervene in those matters.

CIA have had specific fundings for these mentioned troubled regions in China for years. The intervention is always blatant but China's nuclear weapon made it ineffective.

No excuse between enemy lines.

 

North Korea appreciates it.