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WienerGate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, May 28, 2011.

  1. weslinder

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  3. basso

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    Erections have consequences


    Let us declare with certitude the obvious: Rep. Anthony Weiner has disgraced his office, and himself, and he needs to quit.

    Never mind that he went before the TV cameras yesterday, cried on cue and assumed "responsibility" for a litany of offenses to common decency -- including sending lewd messages and revealing photos to young women on Twitter, and then lying about it.

    Repeatedly and egregiously.

    Because there is a difference between taking rhetorical responsibility for what one has done, and accepting the full consequences of those actions -- which in Weiner's case would require his resignation.


    REUTERS
    U.S. Congressman Anthony Weiner

    He obliterated his bond of trust with New York's 9th Congressional District, rendered himself and his office a national laughingstock, used that office to satisfy perverse sexual urges -- in the process, laying himself open to blackmail.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi appears to get it: Yesterday she called for an Ethics Committee probe of the mess (and maybe she can get Rep. Charlie Rangel, who has some experience with such things, to show Weiner the ropes).

    Yes, the congressman insisted that there's no need to resign, because "I don't believe I did anything that violates any law or my oath to my constituents" to uphold the Constitution.

    "Nothing about this should reflect on my official duties [or] my record."

    Really?

    Let's put it this way: Any offenses that result in a press conference in which a member of Congress can relevantly be asked "Were you fully erect?" are offenses that disqualify that congressman from public service.

    It's that simple.

    "My constituents have to make the determination," he said.

    Which is technically true.

    But if Tony Weiner had a shred of personal honor, he'd relieve them of that responsibility.

    He won't, because he is devoid of honor. That was made clear by his weeklong campaign of lies and character assassination meant to deceive his wife of less than a year, his staff, his constituents and the general public -- and to vilify Andrew Breitbart, the online journalist who first disclosed the salacious photos and messages.

    Breitbart has made mistakes. But he's scored important scoops, too.

    Including this one.

    Bottom line: Anthony Weiner betrayed his office and his constituents along with his wife. He has lost whatever respect -- and effectiveness -- he ever enjoyed as a member of Congress.

    Now he's fit only for cable-TV comedy punch lines, and it's going to get worse.

    He needs to resign.

    Now.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    I do find the dichotomy between this thread and the "Palin Revere" thread interesting, in a not so surprising and vaguely depressing sort of way.
     
  5. basso

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    You and baba wawa apparently.
     
  6. thegary

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    we are such puritans when it comes to judging our politicians. when athletes do far more egregious acts we don't call for their resignation. civil servants are not in the clergy, they hold jobs. people all over this country are engaging in far worse behavior via the internet. maybe they should all resign from life.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    It's really weird.

    We have a sitting Supreme Court Justice that was just found to have lied about receiving what basically amounted to a $100,000 bribe, without so much as a peep from the media or the general public... and yet here we are, foaming at the mouth over a U.S. Representative lying about sexting on the interwebs with some random women.

    Our priorities are really f***ed up.
     
  8. rhadamanthus

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    I'm sick of it.
     
  9. langal

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    Would you honestly feel the same way if this was a GOP congressman?

    Or do you give Wiener a break since he (might) share some of your political viewpoints?

    I seem to have noticed that a lot of people on this board just blindly support their side no matter what. That obviously goes for the pro-GOP posters too.
     
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  11. vlaurelio

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    this guy lied about exchanging sexual messages with equally perverted women

    Clinton lied about Monica
    GW lied about WMDs

    did they resign?
     
  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    And ima_drummer comes up with an example that makes me say...

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  13. thegary

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    you refuse to address the substance of my post and instead question my ethics. even though your insulting query is typical political sniping, i will answer. yes, i would feel exactly the same way. now, why don't you post something of value, okay?
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    No kidding. That was my only problem with this whole mess is that it might distract from far more important issues.

    I could laugh at Weiner, and then despise his dishonesty, but it was never so important as something like Thomas who didn't list his wife's income from the heritage foundation and the ad for him paid for by citizens united. The guy is in bed with the same people he's supposed to be presiding over.

    Oddly one of the people leading the charge against him was Anthony Weiner.
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    There are 9 stories about Weiner on the front page of HuffPo right now.

    WHO GIVES A F***?
     
  16. basso

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    at least he's not a hypocite.

    amirite?
     
  17. pgabriel

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    msnbc was saying the guy needs to resign for the national party, i'm like why, no one knew who this guy was until he sent his package across the internet.

    we did, but we're internet geeks
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Yeah, it would look even worse for him if he got elected on "family values".
     
  19. basso

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    why should that make a difference?
     
  20. thegary

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    come on man, can't you shoot straight for once?
     

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