Why would so-called only fans propose a max for Yao?

Nice thread and excellent reply.
Some ppls just need to shut up.

 

the supply and demand relationship decides the price.
what you said is ideal, but it won't happen

 

Why is this a thread? We give Yao the max - or let someone else.... those are the options. If Rashard Lewis garners a max contract.... what's the question?

 

I guarantee that artest and shane will go.
Think about why artest chose houston one year ago?

As for
"Even if Yao were the best center in basketball, that would make him about the 7th or 8th best player in basketball. That type of player doesn't lead its team to championships unless he's surrounded with two other top 15 type players."
Yes, yao's a center, he really needs good teamates and fairish role players. One man brings no champion. Even shaq needs kobe and wade, but kobe and wade need shaq more, do you agree? Center sucks when he can't get the ball, but team sucks without a good center.



Saying "Yao is absolutely replaceable" is the most rediculous thing. first, do you really know a steady "12pts/8reb " center's price? I will tell you, at least 10m/y, if you don't agree with, just name it, please try.

And the rocket system will be totally changed because there won't be any offense threat that yao can bring for the opponents, a system that we have built and improved for years, a system we just benifited from to overcome playoff round 1 and to get over 50wins in past 3years in west. If system corrupted, it needed at least 3 years to rebuilt. Sadly, with a average-offensive center, we need a tmac like player to bring steady 20~30 pts, do you really know that means 15m~20m or more? So, just convince me that 3years and about at least 8 million more cost a year isn't too much for yao's replacement.

Ok, no more comments for such kinda threads, if we just can't convince each other, let it be.

Guys, we have a lot of things to do, no more time waste here.

LET THE REALITY TELLS IN THE FUTURE.

 

get a life

 

Some so-called Rox only fans just ask for too much.
They want yao's 20pts at 55% percentage, they want his defense of 10 rebs and 2 blocks and more to restrict DH like centers to much worse performance, they also want yao not to get injured with average 38mins in playoffs and stay on the court for nearly 80 games, and they want yao to be more flexible with his 7'6 height so he can fix the front problem all by himself.
Those are standards they believe a MAX contract player should fit.
Sadly, no NBA GM is smarter than them, that's why some Lewis like players get max contract.

 

yes I think so.you can't predict the matter how it is going by yourself . the value is dicided by market.you judge his value he also judge your value ,this is all.

 

Really kind of time waste here to argue with some guy who thinks yao's value is 9m/y at most.

 

I don't understand how people say Yao DESERVES the Max when he isn't one of the top rated Defensive big men in the league. Hell he isn't even one of the best rebounding big men in the league.

Yeah, if he was top 10 in defensive or rebounding, sure give him the max.

Majority of the big men in the NBA with Max contracts have very high requirments, and IMO. Yao doesn't have em besides being an offensive juggernaught. Now if we had a KG type of player at PF instead of a Scola, Yes give Yao the Max. But since he doesnt have that, and doesn't do other things consistently enough. I don't think he deserves the Max contract, he deserves his due, but not the Max IMO.

 

Please tell me who are qualified to be a franchise center in the league right now? Dont say Dwight Howard cuz he's not even the first option on that magic team.

So you think after trading for a 12/8 center and 15 ppg player will simply make rockets the championship contender? You have absolute no idea what you are talking about.

Why would any player to be that stupid to say which player he wants to play with? Does Chris Paul, D-Wade, Chris Bosh or LBJ say anything about who they want to play with?

 

OOO and before ya'll say, Well Yao is top 5 in rebounding, thats only because we have no really good rebounders on this team and Yao is sucking them up in garbage time.

 

In my opinion, Yao's defense is really underrated. Yes, he's bad at guarding quicker PFs with great shooting range. But his presence in the paint gives lots of pressure on the other team. They dont show on the stats.

Rockets has been a defensively top rated team since they acquired Yao. I think JVG will tell you the same thing.

 

hmm...
So yao just need to reb one more a game to be the top 10 reb grabber and then deserves max.
What a shinning idea I've never seen.
Thank god DM is not you

 

I really suspect he knows about basketball.

 

go look at yao's rebound totals near end of games when teams were jacking up shots trying to get back into games with us.

If Yao was on a different playoff team, he would be a 8-9RPG player. Take it to the bank.

 

We have no good rebounders? Are you serious?

I will only agree with you if you say this about Dwight Howard.

 

Good comments, just look at game 5 vs lakers. How was our reb performance?
That's about your "garbage time" effects.

 

I agree. Outside of pick-and-rolls, Yao is a dominant defensive presence. He is the anchor to one of the best defensive teams in the league.

 

Please, no IF please.
Give me the digit and source that prove your point.
But no IF because not you or me can prove it.

 

Only person I really seen fight for rebounds on this team is Carl Landry. Who else is a good rebounder on this team? Scola can't get around box outs, Artest can only get a rebound if it bounces directly up and back down cause he lacks speed. Brooks is short, and Battier lacks laterial quickness which is the main reason is mainly just a spot up shooter.

Yeah, Yao can rebound, but Who couldn't if you were 7 freakin 6.

Fact of the matter is Yao doesn't FIGHT for rebounds, he doesn't FIGHT around Box Outs, when was the last time you seen Yao get a putback dunk other than rare occasions?

I LOVE Yao(one of the best players i seen on a rockets roster in a while), but he benefits greatly from having a group of perimiter players with great defensive skills. Even T-Mac is pretty damn good on defense when he is actually able to run around. You put Yao on another other team, especially if they are already good at rebounding and he is no more than a 8-9 RPG player. Take it to the bank.


Portland Spoiled us. Their Centers are hard workers that are lacking skills that make good players great. Lakers, they have players with those skills excluding Bynum. And it totally exposed Yao. How many times this season have we said... " Why Can't we get a REBOUND?" the answer just may lie in the area of Yao Ming.