We definitely need a lot more input about Carlisle's role with management and see if even both sides are willing to come to terms. Perhaps Carlisle might go to broadcasting and not eager to coach after the insulting move of firing a top notch talented coach. Aspects like who he wants to fill the roster holes and/or trade options, we don't know his view on the current team. Francis could be an issue, NOT YAO THOUGH . After being under Joe Dumars, who knows what control and relationship with management wants, or even if CD and Les want this man, though the obvious is seen that he is talented as a coach, just maybe not in Houston.
So according to this article, Carlisle has ties to Portland, after coaching there from 94-97. Portland is more attractive than Houston since they'd give him total control over the team as head coach and GM. Mo Cheeks would be delighted to coach back home in Philly, in the East. Here's how I see things playing out: Detroit: Larry Brown Cleveland: Paul Silas Portland: Rick Carlisle Philadelphia: Mo Cheeks Houston: Jeff Van Gundy Washington: low profile asst. coach Atlanta: Mike Dunleavy New Orleans: low profile asst coach
The best and worst of NBA's head coaches -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Frank Hughes Special to ESPN.com We have the list of the league's 29 coaches ranked in order from best to worst based on a survey of ESPN.com NBA experts. Now, we go to my best and worst on a variety of other topics. And even before we get there, let me apologize ahead of time if some of the same characters -- I mean coaches -- show up in multiple listings. But like in every other walk of life, there are some guys who stand out, and there are some guys who, well, put you to sleep. Houston's Rudy Tomjanovich is a coach you'd want to hang with. BEST GUY: Rudy Tomjanovich. And being in sports, by that we mean which one of these 29 would you like to go out and have a beer with. While I'm sure it would be fascinating to hear Phil Jackson drone on about the inner implications of Zen Buddism vs. neo-Nazi fascism, the coach whom you'd really like to hang with is Houston's Tomjanovich. Well, at least when he was drinking and smoking. Even now, though, he is a great guy, a regular Joe who, despite his success, seems to have time for everyone. We give a close runner-up to Jerry Sloan -- but, of course, he too has conquered his vices. When did the NBA become the feel-good league? We'll give second runners-up to Paul Silas and Frank Johnson, both good guys. WORST GUY: Gregg Popovich. The one thing I've learned in covering this league is that most coaches, once you get them out of their pressure-packed surroundings and into a more sedate environment, are actually good guys. They are able to throw aside the boring clichés and talk like normal human beings. But that does not seem to be the case for Popovich. Perhaps it is his military background. Whatever the case, Pop is short and acerbic and doesn't really care about offending people. At least he is winning, because to have those characteristics without success is more than we can stand.... BEST Xs and Os: Rick Carlisle. All I can point to is this: When he was on their sideline as an assistant, the Indiana Pacers went to the NBA Finals. Now that he is on Detroit's sideline, the Pistons went from moribund to a playoff team. Rick Carlisle might not be the best communicator, but he knows how to draw up a play. And get a basket out of it. We have to give a special nod here to Nelson, simply because he is not afraid to experiment. Nobody ever knows what team he is going to throw out on the floor.
I tend to agree, but Carlisle is by no means a sure thing. He seemed to work miracles in Detroit, but the man has only done it for 2 years. Who knows what the future holds for Carlisle.
I'll take that one step further. I thought Carlisle should have been the coach of the year with Eric Musselman being a close second. Poppavich wasn't even on the radar screen in my opinion.
Yes...that seems like how it's gonna end up. New Orleans: low profile asst coach or Mike Fratello Toronto: a high profile asst coach
Who do you think helped guide that Indiana teamto the 1998-1999 Eastern Conference finals? Larry Bird was great at delegating and macro managing. Carlisle was doing a lot of the work behind the scenes building the offense.
Rick is a no BS kinda guy. He does not coddle, but he is not a aggressive and confrontational. He seems all buisiness all the time with a genuine desire to improve himself, his team, and to win. Our young team will respond to this. Yao will resond to this. Griffin will even respond to this. FA move for a starter quality back-up point gaurd and we are going to the playoffs. (i.e. former starter vet)
Good read. I wouldn't want that headcase as coach. I know everyone is disappointed that Brown won't be coach but I believe things happen for a reason and have complete faith in CD and Les in choosing the next coach.
That article convinced me that we should hire Carlisle. This team needs a serious kick in the pants. Players are far too complacent and comfortable. I don't care if they hate him off the court as long as they play for him on the court. ....Know this. Rick Carlisle is an intense man. He concentrates and he gets single-minded and when he does that, he may not realize whom he's ignoring or how gruff he may sound. When I spoke to him Sunday, he was genuinely shocked that nasty stories were circulating about his temper. To his credit, he would not fire back. He would only say, "I enjoyed my two years there and tried to make everyone share in the success."..... Carlisle molded this group into a low-key, hardworking defensive machine. The players may be happy to be rid of his intractable attitude, but if they think hey, great, we can be the Dallas Mavericks, they're not going to win. Yeah..we sure can't use someone like this.
Nice article. Thanks Hobbs. As I read it I had Leo Duroucher's saying going through my head: "Nice Guys Finish Last"
I wonder if this thread's name shouldn't have been "Why we CAN'T hire Carlisle". Apparently Rockets ownership thinks they can still bid for coaches like it's 1985.
Hmmm...after reading that article...isn't that exactly what a lot of people here on the board were asking for? A disciplinarian? Someone that would not try to be best friends with everyone on the team, but who would rather kick their ass if they don't play team ball? Sounds good to me. Where is DaDakota?
It doesn't sound like he's a disciplinarian; it sounds like he's just an *******. A disciplinarian has good people-skills and uses them to command respect and require compliance. But, all indications are that Carlisle just isn't very good at dealing with people at all. I can't imagine he'd have good success with a team over a long period of time without good people skills. I'd pass on him, though I'd bet he'd make a pretty good assistant.
All I care about is results and Carlise got some of the best results of any coach in sports the past two years with the Detroit Pistons. With the talent on that team, the Pistons had no business being the #1 seed even in a weak eastern conreference. I don't give a damn how a coach gets good results as long as he gets them. Nice guys finish last.
My main concerns w/ Carlisle are the reports that EVERYONE involved in the Pistons orgainization from the owner down hated him. Chucky Atkins said that the players couldn't talk to him and that he was very abrassive. There are reports coming out of the D that he screamed on secrutaries and even pushed a Sr. Pistons official when the guy was trying to high five the players after a big win. That stuff is kinda scarry but it could all be PR by the Pistons to justify the firing and to cover up their tampering of Larry Brown. Like everyone else, I see his tremendous upside as far as being our coach, X's and O's, defenses, getting a lot out of scrubs, etc. I just hope we have a shot and that he's not the a-hole Detroit is making him out to be.
