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Why u Cant build Around Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by leebigez, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. ibm

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    no, i was being serious. i just don't always have the patience, like you do, to spell out every word for some dummies in an articulate fashion.

    but as a rookie here, i'm really impressed by the few posts from you i've seen so far.
     
  2. AGBee

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    How many more years were we going to give Gundy to take us past the first round?
     
  3. carib

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    The Rockets need to play a style that fits there team make up. Last year they where able to do that, unfortunately not in the playoffs. We can argue all year about who we should build the team around. For whats is worth having a center averaging 20pts and 10 rebounds is a premuim in this league. The championship contenders like Celtics (Garnett, Pierce and Allen), Dallas (Dirk, Howard and Terry), Suns (Nash, Amare and Marion), Spurs(Duncan, Parker and Ginobli) and Piston (Billups, Hamilton, Wallace) as these prominent teams play to their different styles and have three strong scorers.
    The Rockets cannot play like the Suns (up tempo) when we don't have a penetrating guard and a very athletic center and power forward.
    We are a poor 3 point shooting team and we continue to shoot alot of 3's instead of Yao posting up more or Wells.
    I am surprised Adelman did not make a change to the lineup before TMac's or Rafer's injury, cause we were already underperforming when they were healthy. Look at the roster, its a good roster.
    The Rockets need to shake up the roster find that third scorer and play a style that fits the make up of the team.
     
  4. smoothie_king

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    yao's post up game is kinda suspect and he has turnovers in the low post...
    NOW SOME OF THE TURNOVERS ARE NOT ALL HIS FAULT BECAUSE HE GETS "FRONTED" AND THE ENTRY PAST INTO THE LOW POST IS NEVER WHERE IT SHOULD BE....

    he has been increasing his blocked shots which is something that he can do to start a fast break for easy points...

    SIMPLY PUT YAO IS NOT ATHLETIC ENOUGH AND YOUNG ENOUGH TO SIMPLY BUILD AROUND FOR THE FUTURE...HE'S A JUMP SHOT SHORT OF BEING SHAWN BRADLEY
     
  5. London'sBurning

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    How many years did it take before the Spurs got past the Lakers in their dynasty days? In a time where most anyone would try to shake up the roster they stuck with it, and patiently waited for Parker to mature while Duncan eventually took over the dominance role against Shaq and vigorously outplayed him in crunch time.

    Yes the situation I described above is different then the tenure under JVG since the Spurs did make it out of the first round and into the 2nd round and WCF repeatedly, but they did have a hump to climb over when the best team in the league was the Lakers.

    The Rockets haven't even gotten that far, but you could tell the formula for success was going in the right direction before injuries plagued the roster. What was needed was a continuous bolster of youth to the roster and patience to let talent develop over trading for seasoned veterans whose ceiling had already been reached. And that falls on the GM, not the coach. RA is a fine coach, but the problems this roster has in lack of youth and offensive explosiveness are the same problems JVG had. Make minor adjustments to the roster that'll pay off better dividends, instead of making an entire personnel shakeup.
     
  6. carib

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    Yao's turnover issues is something that the Rockets should have been working on for years. Whether it being more spacing or more cutting players. Bear in mind, players who hold possession alot will have alot of turnovers, Yao barely has more turnovers than Nash who is a superior ball handler.

    I think its a waste of time getting on Yao, yes we must deal with the turnover issues but focus heavily on finding the third scorer. Right now rumor suggest TMAC is not happy in Houston, Wells may not stay another year if the team does bad, so who will be our most dominating player if these guys leave? who knows.
     
  7. carib

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    Yes thats what I am saying, you can blame the GM to some extent. I agree that RA is a good coach, but not doing a good job at the moment. Van Gundy had less, had injuries and did better largely in part because his style fit the team make up.
    Right now the coaches style does not fit the team make up because we don't have the explosiveness and athleticism for an up tempo style so therefore we should not play that style until you have the personnel to do so.
    I understand your comparison to the Spurs, but the Spurs had one team to deal with, while the Rcokets is 10th in the conference. They were a good team, we are now a sub 500 team.
    The Pistons, Mavs, Celtics and Spurs are good teams that play a style that fits the team. One thing all the championship contenders have in common despite different styles they all have three prominent scorers. Until the Rockets achieve that, they will always be a hump for the Rockets and other teams in the league.
     
  8. daoshi

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    The Rockets' situation is vastly different from the Spurs when Duncan joined the team, and the Spurs did win before PJ joined the Lakers. The Spurs couldn't win it with DR over those years, even David had a better stats line than Yao in almost every category, that's why he became the 2nd option RIGHT AFTER Duncan was drafted.

    The Spurs stayed together because they could see themselves improve, but the Rockets couldn't under JVG, because neither Yao or TMac is near the greatness of Duncan. The Rockets needed to go another direction, and that's what they did. Unfortunately, the Rockets' players are not capable to fitting into Adelman's system, nor was Adelman able to tailor his system to utilize the players. Since it's only two months into the season, it's only fair to give Adelman more time to get it work, but the situation is not looking good with the playoff picture, and Adelman may get canned due to missing out the playoff this season. :(
     
  9. trochili

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    Thanks for standing out
     

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