Why the liberals are so panicked about Obamacare: incompetence, arrogance and deception

Yeah, that whole "panic" meme? Don't believe it.

Healthcare plan enrollment surges in some states after rocky rollout


WASHINGTON — Despite the disastrous rollout of the federal government's healthcare website, enrollment is surging in many states as tens of thousands of consumers sign up for insurance plans made available by President Obama's health law.

A number of states that use their own systems, including California, are on track to hit enrollment targets for 2014 because of a sharp increase in November, according to state officials.

"What we are seeing is incredible momentum," said Peter Lee, director of Covered California, the nation's largest state insurance marketplace, which accounted for a third of all enrollments nationally in October. California — which enrolled about 31,000 people in health plans last month — nearly doubled that in the first two weeks of this month.

Several other states, including Connecticut and Kentucky, are outpacing their enrollment estimates, even as states that depend on the federal website lag far behind. In Minnesota, enrollment in the second half of October ran at triple the rate of the first half, officials said. Washington state is also on track to easily exceed its October enrollment figure, officials said.

 

HealthCare.gov is now working for 90 percent of users who have tried again to sign up.

 

this isn't building ricealumni.edu

 

Bigtexxx, what experience do you have in server maintenance, networking, site building etc to have a relative idea where the healthcare.gov site with it's given amount of data and users is off to a relative bad launch?

Now, I've seen giants such as Electronic Arts, Blizzard and other big name game publishers who have a significant amount of experience with launching major sites or massive online games that struggled with their launches within the first couple of months.

 

Oregon has had their site coveroregon.com up for awhile, but has not activated it accept applications yet. However, they sent out 200,000 letters to people who were eligible for coverage and have signed up 70,000 people so far after just the first letter. If the state government wants to make the effort, there are other ways to reach eligible people besides the internet.

 

there is also something about making sure the fed site is compatipatable with whatever states that don't want to cooperate have.

 

Yes. If you have the cash they will be more than happy to sign you up. Now here are things that kept you from getting a policy:

1) Pre-existing condition. While they can still get insurance, they won't be covered on something they already had before they signed up...only the new things. And if the pre-ex is something serious, which many are, it kind of defeats paying for insurance when most of the money spent on medical is still not covered. So the ones that will now take advantage of this will only do so if they have something serious that has been or will cost them more than the premiums...ie...the very sick. And personally I'm ok with this IF you expect this going in.

2) The gambler. They have the cash but you don't want to spend it in that area. Think of it as a form of self insured. Unless they get govt subsidy, they will pay the $95 and continue on as they were. And I dare say that lack of the grandfather clause created a lot more gamblers than there were pre-ACA.

3) The poor...but not too poor. If you find yourself in the sweet spot, you now get free or very low cost insurance where there wasn't anyway you could get coverage. However, if you don't make enough, you get 0 subsidy and those people really can't afford it so it's becomes a $95 fine on being really poor.

4) The middle-class without a job with benefits. They don't have the cash. They may make 70-80k but in many parts of the country add kids, a house, a car, food, poor money management and just things in life...the money is just not there. Some money yes but not 400-600 month extra. So they become a gambler but not by choice. The problem is Obamacare doesn't help them...so they have to continue to be the gambler...minus $95.

5) Dependents that were under 26 and not in school full time. You could get insurance but this group was a cross between group 2 and 3 so most did not have it. They are now covered under their parent's plan if applicable and the parents want to pay.

So I'm really only seeing the sick and somewhat poor signing up. Where are the well people that they want to sign up to offset the costs? I'm not sure all those $95 fines will add up to anything so it's just more govt debt and still millions without insurance...quite possibly more.

And when the employer paid part kicks in a few years...everyone will be screaming about the rate increases because everyone's rates will be going up to help pay for the money loser they have created. Yes there are some good parts but the overall foundation is horrible.

 

So how many more do they need to replace the ones they cancelled?

 

Except I don't need it but have to pay for the coverage that I guarantee you I will never need.

 

Not to this extent. EA, Blizzard, etc. have minor glitches. Healthcare.gov is a complete mess. There is nothing good about the site. It has major flaws in coding, not a few minor glitches.

 

You obviously never tried to play sim city 4 or Diablo 3 its first month out. There are plenty of major multiplayer games that had horrible initial first month glitches and slowdowns.

 

Okay but policies also cover prostate cancer

 

Poor people have medicaid

Th people who needed affordable options are small business owners


That's a failuure in understanding, messaging, etc

 

Sorry

Those are good questions Art

 

You don't have to be poor to become bankrupt by medical bills.