Why the heck this man man have so much respect? Why does his word mean so much?

Sishir Chang · Feb 14, 2007

Caboose said:

They are not being "singled out by race" by the police. They are being "singled out by race" by victims and witnesses of crime. How is that the NYPD's fault? In 68% of reported crimes witnesses or victims said that the perpetrator was black. Should the police then go look out for a white person? 55% of the police stops were of black people. 11% were of white people even though white people amounted to I think 5% of the crimes reported. Maybe white pople should sue. Those statistics say that the blacks are getting favor and whites are the ones being screwed.
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I'm not disagreeing with the statistics but pointing out that if you profile people based on race by definition that is racist.

SamFisher · Feb 15, 2007

StupidMoniker said:

Rocket River said that there would never have been TWO black coaches facing each other in the Super Bowl without the Rooney Rule.
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I showed that ONE of the two coaches in THIS super bowl got in without the Rooney Rule and that many other teams had already hired black head coaches without the Rooney Rule.
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. That was hardly a specific question that I responded to halfway, it was a very general statement, one that I rather easily disproved.
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Bwahahahahaha, somebody needs to understand basic arithmetic better.

The pool NFL head coaches are drawn from is usually NFL coaches and coordinators. Those ranks are often filled by college coaches, who are more disproportionately white than the NFL.
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You're being dense on purpose here, not surprising though.

I would say it's beneath you, but given the dishonesty that you've expressed in this area in the past it's not surprising.

YOu're my favorite hack here. I love your posts. THey are the height of incredibly superficial thinking cloaked with the vestiges of intellect - then they collapse on themselves and you're forced to play make believe in order to save "BBS face", ha ha ha.

HIGH COMEDY

StupidMoniker · Feb 15, 2007

SamFisher said:

Bwahahahahaha, somebody needs to understand basic arithmetic better.
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It has nothing to do with basic arithmatic, and everything to do with the most basic understanding of probability. If there are 10 teams in a thirty team league that are willing to hire black coaches (and this grants the rediculous assumption that just because a team has not hired a black coach without being forced to interview one, they are thus unwilling to for all time) the odds are that two black coaches will eventually face each other in the super bowl. To argue differently would be like saying you will never roll doubles with a pair of dice.

YOu're my favorite hack here. I love your posts. THey are the height of incredibly superficial thinking cloaked with the vestiges of intellect - then they collapse on themselves and you're forced to play make believe in order to save "BBS face", ha ha ha.

HIGH COMEDY
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You are one of my least favorite posters. You read people's posts to mean whatever you want them to mean (as opposed to what is actually posted) and then run with it Quite frankly I think you are a giant douche, but to each his own.

Caboose · Feb 15, 2007

Sishir Chang said:

I'm not disagreeing with the statistics but pointing out that if you profile people based on race by definition that is racist.
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ummmmm no...

racism- a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

racist- . a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

If someone tells you a black person stabs you you don't go and question or arrest a white person. It isn't racist. The police aren't showing hatred or intolerance towards a race.

rimrocker · Feb 26, 2007

Al in the news...

"Shocked" Sharpton Wants DNA Test
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/26/national/printable2516912.shtml

NEW YORK, Feb. 26, 2007(CBS/AP) The Rev. Al Sharpton said he wants a DNA test to determine whether he is related to former segregationist Sen. Strom Thurmond through his great-grandfather, a slave owned by an ancestor of the late senator.

"I can't find out anything more shocking than I've already learned," Sharpton told the Daily News, which on Sunday reported the link based on genealogists' findings.

Sharpton's spokesman, Rachel Noerdlinger, confirmed Monday for The Associated Press that Sharpton plans to pursue DNA testing, but had no further details.

CBS News Radio correspondent Peter King reports that Sharpton said he will interview the researchers and the reporter on-air and take calls about the topic.

Sharpton and Thurmond didn't appear to have much in common: Thurmond ran for president in 1948 as a segregationist. Sharpton ran for president in 2004 calling for racial equality. Sharpton learned about the connection last week.

"It was probably the most shocking thing in my life," Sharpton said at a news conference Sunday, the day the Daily News reported the link.

Professional genealogists who work for Ancestry.com found that Sharpton's great-grandfather, Coleman Sharpton, was a slave owned by Julia Thurmond, whose grandfather was Strom Thurmond's great-great-grandfather. Coleman Sharpton was later freed.

"Based on the paper trail, it seems pretty evident that the connection is there," said Mike Ward, a genealogist with Ancestry.com who called the link "amazing."

Ancestry.com's chief family genealogist, Megan Smolenyak, said Sharpton would need to match his DNA with a present-day descendant to see if they are biologically related.

"I think the odds are slim he would match," Smolenyak told the News. "There is no particular evidence to suggest that there is a direct relationship between the two (black and white) Sharpton families to suggest they share a common ancestry. But, given the legacy of plantation society, you can't rule it out."

The revelations surfaced after Ancestry.com contacted a Daily News reporter who agreed to have his own family tree done. The intrigued reporter then asked Sharpton if he wanted to participate. Sharpton said he told the paper, "Go for it."

The genealogists, who were not paid by the newspaper, uncovered the ancestral ties using a variety of documents that included census, marriage and death records.

Strom Thurmond, of South Carolina, was once considered an icon of racial segregation. During his 1948 bid for president, he promised to preserve segregation — and in 1957 he filibustered for more than 24 hours against a civil rights bill.

But Thurmond was seen as softening his stance later in his long life. He died in 2003, at 100. One of the longest-serving senators in history, he was originally a Democrat but became a Republican in 1964.

His children have confirmed that he fathered a biracial daughter. Essie Mae Washington-Williams' mother was a housekeeper in the home of Thurmond's parents.

Sharpton said he met Thurmond only once, in 1991, when he visited Washington, D.C., with the late James Brown, who knew Thurmond. Sharpton said the meeting was "awkward."

"I was not happy to meet him because what he had done all his life," Sharpton said.

Sharpton said he hadn't attempted to contact the Thurmond family. As far as he knew, he said, the family hadn't tried to call him, either.

Some of Thurmond's relatives said the nexus also came as a surprise to them. A niece, Ellen Senter, said she would speak with Sharpton if he were interested.

"I doubt you can find many native South Carolinians today whose family, if you traced them back far enough, didn't own slaves," Senter, of Columbia, S.C., told the Daily News.

She added: "And it is wonderful that (Sharpton) was able to become what he is in spite of what his forefather was."

Telephone messages left by The Associated Press for Strom Thurmond Jr. and for an attorney who once represented Thurmond's biracial daughter were not immediately returned Sunday.
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